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    @divegeester said
    What is more interesting for me is that there is an apparent contradiction between the two accounts, which incidentally I don’t think are two “stories” but two perspectives on one story.
    That's going to be a tough one to explain!

    What are the two perspectives?
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    @wolfgang59 said
    That's going to be a tough one to explain!

    What are the two perspectives?
    Why is there a need to explain? Christians who feel that there is some urgent need to explain anything to unbelieving people / atheists, and to convince them that the bible is true, are sadly mistaken. There is no requirement or commandment to do that. Neither is there any need to continuously explain anything to Christians of opposing views. Of course someone may engage in a discussion of contentious or important issues, but most of these discussions are petty and trivial.
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    @rajk999 said
    Why is there a need to explain?
    No need.

    Bye
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    @wolfgang59 said
    What are the two perspectives?
    They are the two accounts given which you are referring to.
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    Would a frivolous (but hopefully mildly amusing) answer to the thread heading be 'Peter Gabriel era' ?
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    @blood-on-the-tracks said
    Would a frivolous (but hopefully mildly amusing) answer to the thread heading be 'Peter Gabriel era' ?
    I know a fireman who looks after the fire.
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    @blood-on-the-tracks said
    Would a frivolous (but hopefully mildly amusing) answer to the thread heading be 'Peter Gabriel era' ?
    It would.
    But Genesis were $hyt3 with or without Gabriel!
    😉
    I was into "YES" in the 70s ... pretentious crap but I loved it.
    Close to the Edge is still an ear-worm for me.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    My fingers didn't type what my brain was thinking!


    I was thinking about the Creation myths.
    Two (?) in Genesis.
    Which one is the best as a work of fiction or fact.
    I thought you were speaking of the whole book of Genesis.

    There's a lot more there than just the Creation.
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    @divegeester said
    What lesson do you find in the Biblical claim that a man was created from dust into God’s image?
    You can't stop while you're ahead, can you?

    Sobeit.

    The lesson that man has a humble beginning, that he is not as "perfect" as some may think. That we are made in God's image, but that we are still far from God.

    Get it all out, because I am not going to be suffering endless questions, as is your usual M.O.
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    @divegeester said
    Ah a thumb down already.
    Glad you’re reading Suzianne 🙂
    Afraid I do not know what you are on about.

    I only up thumbed one of your posts so far.

    If you have to be a beast, then at least be up front about it.
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    @divegeester said
    Are you going to answer for Suzianne again or should I wait for her to reply?
    Congrats, my first down thumb in the thread.
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    @divegeester said
    I only remind you of it at appropriate junctures, like this one.

    But while we are on the subject, what is it with you and her? Online romance?
    Congrats, the second.

    By all means, keep going.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Of course they do, and they are entertaining for others. Most of us
    enjoy Greek & Norse mythology without believing it factual .. and
    perhaps there are allegorical "truths" within those myths.

    But it's really puzzling that the OT has TWO creation stories. The only sense that
    makes is if the editors of Genesis are saying "These stories are not true but both
    have v ...[text shortened]... e from Adam's rib.
    It's saying man is incomplete without a partner and loneliness isn't a weakness.
    Let me interrupt here and ask you this: what "two" creation stories? I only see one.
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    @rajk999 said
    Why is there a need to explain? Christians who feel that there is some urgent need to explain anything to unbelieving people / atheists, and to convince them that the bible is true, are sadly mistaken. There is no requirement or commandment to do that. Neither is there any need to continuously explain anything to Christians of opposing views. Of course someone may engage in ...[text shortened]... discussion of contentious or important issues, but most of these discussions are petty and trivial.
    This is a discussion forum. If you don't want to discuss, then don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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    @blood-on-the-tracks said
    Would a frivolous (but hopefully mildly amusing) answer to the thread heading be 'Peter Gabriel era' ?
    I thought Peter Gabriel was much better solo.
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