Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo how many of your 37,335 posts are you now claiming were blank or had only a dot in them?
below is a single entry, how much volume does it contain? a dot. You cannot judge volume on the basis of the number of posts, because posts vary greatly in length and thus volume. The assertion therefore stands and total number of posts cannot be an accurate gauge of volume as i have just proven.
Originally posted by FMFno its not a read herring i am asking you for evidence, if your friends attacks were motivated by volume as he claims then he should be able to produce evidence which substantiates the claim of others who were also special objects of his attack on the basis of volume. If you cannot nor will not then I put it to you that he was motivated by some other consideration.
Ask people who haven't attacked me why they haven't attacked me. Don't ask me. This is another red herring.
How is it a "barefaced lie" to describe your 37,300+ posts as a "voluminous" posting record?
Originally posted by FMFI am not claiming anything I am merely demonstrating to you that total number of posts is not an accurate estimation of volume. Now established empirically and incontrovertibly. Proper knobs model fails, emphatically.
So how many of your 37,335 posts are you now claiming were blank or had only a dot in them?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAsk the people who haven't attacked me for evidence or whatever it is you want to know about them. Don't ask me. I am not responsible for what they post and don't post.
no its not a read herring i am asking you for evidence, if your friends attacks were motivated by volume as he claims then he should be able to produce evidence which substantiates the claim of others who were also special objects of his attack on the basis of volume.
Originally posted by robbie carrobietotal number of posts = 37,300+
I am not claiming anything I am merely demonstrating to you that total number of posts is not an accurate estimation of volume. Now established empirically and incontrovertibly. Proper knobs model fails, emphatically.
37,300+ posts = voluminous posting
number of your posts = voluminous posting
I am not claiming anything...
Yes you are. You are claiming people who describe your posting record as "voluminous" are "barefaced liars".
Originally posted by FMFbut I am asking you FMF, surely it should be in your interests to establish the veracity of the claim of voluminous posting as forming the basis of your friends motivations by citing evidence of others who were also special objects of his attack on the basis of volume otherwise we shall be forced to conclude that volume was not a valid reason and indeed it was a barefaced lie as i have asserted.
Ask the people who haven't attacked me for evidence or whatever it is you want to know about them. Don't ask me. I am not responsible for what they post and don't post.
Originally posted by FMFyes because number of pages cannot nor does not equate with volume as I have just proven. Number of posts does not equal voluminous posts otherwise a single dot would be equivalent in volume to one of jaywills long posts, is that really what you are claiming FMF? is it?
total number of posts = 37,300+
37,300+ posts = voluminous posting
number of your posts = voluminous posting
[b]I am not claiming anything...
Yes you are. You are claiming people who describe your posting record as "voluminous" are "barefaced liars".[/b]
number of posts not equal voluminous posting as I have just proven.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAsk them about what they have and haven't posted. There's no point asking me. If they say they objected to a particular poster's voluminous posting then I am inclined to take them at their word.
but I am asking you FMF, surely it should be in your interests to establish the veracity of the claim of voluminous posting as forming the basis of your friends motivations by citing evidence of others who were special objects of his attack on the basis of volume otherwise we shall be forced to conclude that volume was not a valid reason and indeed it was a barefaced lie as i have asserted.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie37,335 posts is "voluminous" posting, robbie. Name some people who have posted more often than you.
yes because number of pages cannot nor does not equate with volume as I have just proven. Number of posts does not equal voluminous posts otherwise a single dot would be equivalent in volume to one of jaywills long posts, is that really what you are claiming FMF? is it?
number of posts not equal voluminous posting as I have just proven.
Originally posted by FMFare you saying FMF that a single iota is equivalent to a long post of text? is that really what you are saying? If i post fifteen dots and jaywill posts fifteen long texts they will take up the same fifteen posts per page, will they therefore contain the same volume of text FMF?
37,335 posts is "voluminous" posting, robbie. Name some people who have posted more often than you.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat I am saying is crystal clear, robbie. 37,335 posts is "voluminous" posting. My 29,000 or so posts is also "voluminous" posting. However many times sonship has posted - maybe 15,000 times - is also "voluminous".
are you saying FMF that a single iota is equivalent to a long post of text? is that really what you are saying?
according to you FMF
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I challenge anyone to put force a philosophy of life that they consider to be more humanly mature than this simple statement.
1.) Jesus loves me spoken in the present tense assumes that Jesus is present. Two thousand years of history since the gospels record His walk on earth has not diminished His presence. He loves me, now, still, at every stage of my life - "Jesus loves me."[b]
2.) No other human being has walked the planet with the splendor, righteousness, glory, majesty, love as [b]Jesus Christ. The second runner up is not close, whoever you submit. No one, but no one has had the power of personality of Jesus of Nazareth.
3.) His love for me floods my life with meaning. This love cannot fade through trial, turmoil, adversity or misfortune. It sustains and maintains. It upholds and strengthens. It supports with eternal encouragement and lifts up under even the most tragic circumstances. It promises eternal life. It promises eternal forgiveness. It operates to transform me into being like Him. It causes me to gravitate towards God. Nothing can separate me from His love. And the realization that His love is upon even my enemies furnishes me with moral victory over jealousy, hatred, revenge, envy, anxiety. The eternal love of Jesus Christ is a rock upon which my moral house is built and forbids its destruction. It will even conquer death and the grave itself.
4.) Jesus loves me, this I know The love of Jesus is not just a theory to me. I KNOW experimentally, in my deepest spiritual being, by His presence as the Holy Spirit, that He loves men. I KNOW He loves me because He has done IN me that which I could never do in myself alone. I KNOW He loves me with a deeper knowing then I know my own name and identity. Experiencing His presence puts me in touch with realms of reality deeper in me than I knew existed.
5.) this I know for the Bible tells me so. This Bible is a unique book. There is no other book quite like the Bible. There are books "like" the Bible. But they are not like the Bible in being in a class all of their own. Sure ANY book could inform me that Jesus loves me. But the Bible is not any book. And all that I know about WHO and WHAT Jesus was was communicated first in the Bible. All other writings practically, which inform me anything about this Jesus Person, were based on what they received before from the Bible.
The Bible has been whittled, chisled, chopped at, burnt, hidden away from the masses, crushed, confiscated, opposed, laughed at, critiqued texturally for errors, and it still survives. Voltaire promised to go through the Bible so destructively that it would cease to be used. Voltaire is long dead and the Bible is still with us as world wide best circulated, most translated, best seller of all time.
That the Bible tells me also that Jesus loves me is quite powerful more so than another book telling me so. And the prophetic nature of the Bible strongly confirms that its origins are supernatural though it does show hallmarks of human style and culture.
The Bible tells me that Jesus loves me - NOW. The Holy Spirit confirms in my innermost being that Jesus loves me NOW. And it also tells me that He loves YOU, reader, the same which heightens your own value and dignity in my eyes even if you oppose Christ and God in unbelief. For the same redemptive blood He shed for me in love, He also shed for you.
Now I ask, what human philosophy or ethics would you propose to me to be more mature ? And why should I "graduate" at all from the simple truth expressed in this children's poem?
"Jesus loves me this I know,
For the Bible tells me so."