Originally posted by GSWILLJaywill, sonship and GSWILL. It's the Holy Trinity.
Correction: sonship intended to write:
[b] Unless you believe something like the earth was not round until some other solar day besides the first, it is hard to escape the that the seerer or prophet is speaking from some kind of local standpount. [/b]
Originally posted by sonshipNone of these actually qualify to be called a theory, so I admit I am technically wrong to use that term, however, I have not confused any of these ideas. I just mentioned them altogether to indicate they are all wrong. I did not mention the pre-Adamic age, because to me that is just a variation of the gap hypothesis and is also wrong.It is obvious to me that the creation event happened more than 6,000 years ago. Our disagreement seems to be how much longer. I do not accept a gap theory in the days of creation. These days were literal days with evening and morning as Moses declared and just like the Jewish days on the Jewish calendar.
I think you are confusing Day A ...[text shortened]... ed to be more concerned with how it is all going to end a little more than how it all began.
Sure, I agree that it was written to be understood from a local standpoint. It is obvious that God had to convey this information simple enough that all those people could understand it. So Moses wrote it just as simple, and there is absolutely no reason those people would try to complicate things, like many today are apt to do.
The time factor has nothing to do with when the sun is said to have been made. Even without a sun, I am sure God knew how long each day was. Moses specifically states that the sun and moon was for man to be able to tell time, not God.
As I said before, I believe this is an account of the beginning of the physical creation only and has nothing to do with the spiritual creations of God that came before this. It says "In the beginning" but it is obvious to me from scripture that this is not referring to the beginning of all creation that includes the angels and other spirit creatures. Didn't the angels rejoice at the creation of the earth according to Job? That event occurred at the very beginning, on the first day of the creation of the physical universe.
The Genesis account has nothing to do with the creation of the spiritual heaven and the heavenly spirit creatures that were already in existence when the Genesis creation of the physical heavens and the earth occurred. This is the only logical explanation I could conceive. None of those other ideas makes sense in the context of the scriptures. They are all false teachings and lies, regardless of the intentions of the teacher.
I believe I have been inspired by the Holy Spirit on this and no one is going to convince me otherwise. So you can either accept it or go your own way.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Originally posted by RJHinds
None of these actually qualify to be called a theory, so I admit I am technically wrong to use that term, however, I have not confused any of these ideas. I just mentioned them altogether to indicate they are all wrong. I did not mention the pre-Adamic age, because to me that is just a variation of the gap hypothesis and is also wrong.
Sure, I agree tha ...[text shortened]... it or go your own way.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
I believe I have been inspired by the Holy Spirit on this and no one is going to convince me otherwise. So you can either accept it or go your own way.
I am not hurt if you do not believe in a pre-adamic age on earth.
" If any one has confidence in himself that he is of Christ, let him think this again in himself, that even as he is of Christ, so also are we." (2 Cor. 10:7)
Originally posted by sonshipYes, Indeed.I believe I have been inspired by the Holy Spirit on this and no one is going to convince me otherwise. So you can either accept it or go your own way.
I am not hurt if you do not believe in a pre-adamic age on earth.
[b] " If any one has confidence in himself that he is of Christ, let him think this again in himself, that even as he is of Christ, so also are we." (2 Cor. 10:7) [/b]
"For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."
(2 Corinthians 10:3-5 NIV)
HaleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!