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Gaza in the Bible

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There are quite a few references in the Bible about Gaza [sometimes called Philistia]. Most of them are of a destructive nature. Over the millenniums the area was built and destroyed by successive empires and rulers. This is appears to be the final one. In no period of history has Gaza been so completely destroyed. A sign of the times maybe,

Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they carried away captive the whole captivity, to deliver them up to Edom: But I will send a fire on the wall of Gaza, which shall devour the palaces thereof: (Amos 1:6-7 KJV)

For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the LORD is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant. And the sea coast shall be dwellings and cottages for shepherds, and folds for flocks. And the coast shall be for the remnant of the house of Judah; they shall feed thereupon: in the houses of Ashkelon shall they lie down in the evening: for the LORD their God shall visit them, and turn away their captivity. (Zep 2:4-7 KJV)

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@Rajk999 said
There are quite a few references in the Bible about Gaza [sometimes called Philistia]. Most of them are of a destructive nature. Over the millenniums the area was built and destroyed by successive empires and rulers. This is appears to be the final one. In no period of history has Gaza been so completely destroyed. A sign of the times maybe,

Thus saith the LORD; For ...[text shortened]... ning: for the LORD their God shall visit them, and turn away their captivity. (Zep 2:4-7 KJV)
Oh, just you wait--Trump will build five-star hotels there, and golf courses. He's said himself it's prime property for development. There will be jobs there for the Palestinians, too---cleaning toilets and mowing the links. Israel gets security, Trump gets billions, and the Palestinians get jobs. It's a total win-win-win.


@moonbus said
Oh, just you wait--Trump will build five-star hotels there, and golf courses. He's said himself it's prime property for development. There will be jobs there for the Palestinians, too---cleaning toilets and mowing the links. Israel gets security, Trump gets billions, and the Palestinians get jobs. It's a total win-win-win.
Lol .. good one. Well here is an idea. Let this be a test of Bible prophecy. The Bible says Gaza will be destroyed and not rebuilt. If Trump succeeds in his plan, then the prophecy is wrong... and you win.


@Rajk999 said
Lol .. good one. Well here is an idea. Let this be a test of Bible prophecy. The Bible says Gaza will be destroyed and not rebuilt. If Trump succeeds in his plan, then the prophecy is wrong... and you win.
There have been prophets of doom from the beginning. Every prophet of doom has been wrong so far. Someday, one will be right, but we won't know it.


@Rajk999 said
Lol .. good one. Well here is an idea. Let this be a test of Bible prophecy. The Bible says Gaza will be destroyed and not rebuilt. If Trump succeeds in his plan, then the prophecy is wrong... and you win.
The man can't even run a casino without going bankrupt, but you want him to perform 'his magic' in Gaza.

'Hurting people to make money' is the only 'magic' he knows.


@moonbus said
There have been prophets of doom from the beginning. Every prophet of doom has been wrong so far. Someday, one will be right, but we won't know it.
I am referring to prophets in the Bible. They have all been right so far especially pertaining to Israel. I dont consider anyone among men now to be reliable prophets.

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@Rajk999 said
I am referring to prophets in the Bible. They have all been right so far especially pertaining to Israel. I dont consider anyone among men now to be reliable prophets.
That depends on how one interprets the words of a prophecy, and also on how one interprets prophecy as a mode of speaking. Prophecy is not simply prediction, that something is bound to happen no matter what anybody does. It is one thing to predict that an eclipse will occur, and quite another to prophesy that somebody is going to ride into town on a donkey. The eclipse is going to happen anyway, no matter what anybody does or thinks about it. However, the prophecy that someone would ride into town on a donkey is not like that. Thousands of people rode into town on donkeys at one time or another, and did not claim to have been fulfilling a prophecy thereby. We need not suppose that the Old Testament prophet had any divine foresight; that is to say, he was not making a prediction. What he was saying was that when your Messiah comes, he will come humbly, not in grandeur in a golden chariot pulled by a white stallion. We may assume that Jesus was familiar with the Old Testament prophecy, as would all the Jewish residents of the town have been familiar with it. This gave Jesus a reason or motive to instruct his disciples to go into town and find a donkey, so that when he rode into town, the people would recognize that he was intentionally fulfilling this prophecy. He was giving people a sign, that their Messiah had arrived. This is entirely different to predicting that an eclipse is going to happen, no matter what anybody does or thinks about it.

Now, whether Gaza is going to be razed to the ground is not like a prediction, for example, that it will be struck by an asteroid. There’s intentionality involved, people aware of the ancient prophecy have it in their power to make it happen intentionally. It’s no proof of God or divine intervention.


@Rajk999 said
Lol .. good one. Well here is an idea. Let this be a test of Bible prophecy. The Bible says Gaza will be destroyed and not rebuilt. If Trump succeeds in his plan, then the prophecy is wrong... and you win.
That seems to be a very narrow test of biblical truth.

It is still possible that we don't live in the last days and people in a few hundred years will smile over the erroneous interpretation of clear biblical statements (that has happened before).

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@Ponderable said
That seems to be a very narrow test of biblical truth.

It is still possible that we don't live in the last days and people in a few hundred years will smile over the erroneous interpretation of clear biblical statements (that has happened before).
Biblical prophecies are famously vague about when things are supposed to happen. For example, the prophecy about riding into Jerusalem on a donkey--this is a very ordinary thing to do, tens of thousands of people must have ridden into town on donkeys over a few centuries, and no one remarked upon it or thought it worth recording. So, in a sense, the prophecy about riding into town on a donkey could not not have been fulfilled, sometime or other. Same goes for the destruction of Gaza; people(s) have been squabbling over that patch of ground since Lucy's descendants walked out of Africa and found Neanderthals or Denisovans already living there.