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    29 Sep '05 17:45
    I was just watching the TV and a piece on the gemstone 'Jet' came up and they said that Jet is compressed carbon, not unlike coal, which has been squished for millions of years. Now, to all you Young Earth people, what have you got to say about gemstones? Do you believe that they were created as is and dumped in the earth? Or do you have some other explanation?
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    29 Sep '05 18:37
    Originally posted by Starrman
    I was just watching the TV and a piece on the gemstone 'Jet' came up and they said that Jet is compressed carbon, not unlike coal, which has been squished for millions of years. Now, to all you Young Earth people, what have you got to say about gemstones? Do you believe that they were created as is and dumped in the earth? Or do you have some other explanation?
    Some scientists in New Zealand, I think it was, were able to produce coal by putting wood under enormous pressure and heat for a week. I'll see if I can find the article, but it was a long time ago, so no guarantees.
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    29 Sep '05 18:41
    Originally posted by Starrman
    I was just watching the TV and a piece on the gemstone 'Jet' came up and they said that Jet is compressed carbon, not unlike coal, which has been squished for millions of years. Now, to all you Young Earth people, what have you got to say about gemstones? Do you believe that they were created as is and dumped in the earth? Or do you have some other explanation?
    Sigh... Poor Starrman. Still trying to use his brain for logical and factual arguments.

    Now grab your head with both of your hands, that's right get a firm grip, walk over to the sturdiest wall you can find, and slam your head against it repeatedly. There, that's much better isn't it?
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    29 Sep '05 18:51
    Originally posted by wib
    Sigh... Poor Starrman. Still trying to use his brain for logical and factual arguments.

    Now grab your head with both of your hands, that's right get a firm grip, walk over to the sturdiest wall you can find, and slam your head against it repeatedly. There, that's much better isn't it?
    Heyyyy! 😠 Whatcha implying here? 😛😵
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    29 Sep '05 19:21
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Heyyyy! 😠 Whatcha implying here? 😛😵
    Sorry Halitose. Wasn't pointing the the finger at you. I posted right after you but didn't see you had posted. I was just expecting Starrman to get a barrage of interpreted scripture thrown at him. 🙂

    I'm still expecting it.
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    29 Sep '05 19:31
    Originally posted by wib
    Sorry Halitose. Wasn't pointing the the finger at you. I posted right after you but didn't see you had posted. I was just expecting Starrman to get a barrage of interpreted scripture thrown at him. 🙂

    I'm still expecting it.
    lol
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    29 Sep '05 21:37
    Originally posted by wib
    Sigh... Poor Starrman. Still trying to use his brain for logical and factual arguments.

    Now grab your head with both of your hands, that's right get a firm grip, walk over to the sturdiest wall you can find, and slam your head against it repeatedly. There, that's much better isn't it?
    Such is my lot wib, such is my lot 😞
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    30 Sep '05 04:25
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Some scientists in New Zealand, I think it was, were able to produce coal by putting wood under enormous pressure and heat for a week. I'll see if I can find the article, but it was a long time ago, so no guarantees.
    I wonder how much energy they put into making that piece of coal and what fraction could be given back by burning it.
    I don't know why I wonder that, kinda nerdy really ...
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    30 Sep '05 04:421 edit
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Some scientists in New Zealand, I think it was, were able to produce coal by putting wood under enormous pressure and heat for a week. I'll see if I can find the article, but it was a long time ago, so no guarantees.
    From memory they used conditions that don't exist anywhere on the earth.
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    30 Sep '05 07:18
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    From memory they used conditions that don't exist anywhere on the earth.
    ...don't exist anywhere on earth at present.

    Incidently, so did the miller experiment.
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    30 Sep '05 07:20
    Originally posted by KneverKnight
    I wonder how much energy they put into making that piece of coal and what fraction could be given back by burning it.
    I don't know why I wonder that, kinda nerdy really ...
    Yes. That kinda wastes the idea of making coal and then burning it later for energy. Sorry, no solution yet for the draining of our natural resources.
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    30 Sep '05 07:25
    Originally posted by Halitose
    ...don't exist anywhere on earth [b]at present.

    Incidently, so did the miller experiment.[/b]
    There was no 'at present' in my sentence and neither should there be.
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    30 Sep '05 15:34
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    From memory they used conditions that don't exist anywhere on the earth.
    Except during the experiment, at the very least...
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    30 Sep '05 16:44
    Originally posted by echecero
    Except during the experiment, at the very least...
    Oh well that explains it then.

    It was those damn dinosaurs doing experiments when their cavemen riders were sleeping.
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    30 Sep '05 17:171 edit
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    There was no 'at present' in my sentence and neither should there be.
    Are you a big fan of uniformitarianism?
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