5 words. Jesus said these words.
Most will say 'well, He really didn't mean it'. Yet, He said it.
When is it okay to take the words of Jesus literally? When we like it?
Then, when we don't like it, we struggle, at all means, to find an interpretation that suits us.
Jesus said these 5 words. He did not tell the woman to "go and commit no more adultery, He said "go and sin no more".
Do Christians interpret the Bible to 'fit' their own opinions?
Originally posted by chaney3Go and drink no more .
5 words. Jesus said these words.
Most will say 'well, He really didn't mean it'. Yet, He said it.
When is it okay to take the words of Jesus literally? When we like it?
Then, when we don't like it, we struggle, at all means, to find an interpretation that suits us.
Jesus said these 5 words. He did not tell the woman to "go and commit no more adu ...[text shortened]... He said "go and sin no more".
Do Christians interpret the Bible to 'fit' their own opinions?
Originally posted by Rajk999Why would He say that? When it seems impossible for a human to comply?
Jesus meant what he said.
Nothing to discuss.
Move along now.
There is something to discuss, if you wish not to, then stay out of this thread.
You have publicly admitted that you sin, daily, so your 'preaching' is meaningless to me.
Originally posted by chaney3It is never a good idea to think that because you have a weakness that that weakness applies to all of mankind.
Why would He say that? When it seems impossible for a human to comply?
There is something to discuss, if you wish not to, then stay out of this thread.
You have publicly admitted that you sin, daily, so your 'preaching' is meaningless to me.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. (1 John 5:3 KJV)
Some can follow, some cannot. Some can avoid sin and some cannot
Jesus will know how to judge.
Originally posted by Rajk999You are a sinner. You admitted it.
It is never a good idea to think that because you have a weakness that that weakness applies to all of mankind.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. (1 John 5:3 KJV)
Some can follow, some cannot. Some can avoid sin and some cannot
Jesus will know how to judge.
Nothing to discuss, your preaching is void.
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Originally posted by chaney3We should not expect that Christ should have said "Go and sin occasionally" ?
5 words. Jesus said these words.
Most will say 'well, He really didn't mean it'. Yet, He said it.
When is it okay to take the words of Jesus literally? When we like it?
Then, when we don't like it, we struggle, at all means, to find an interpretation that suits us.
Jesus said these 5 words. He did not tell the woman to "go and commit no more adu ...[text shortened]... He said "go and sin no more".
Do Christians interpret the Bible to 'fit' their own opinions?
Why would He not tell her to "Go and sin no more?"
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Originally posted by chaney3I think we have to take into account the degree of awareness her human conscience informed her. .
I don't know.
There are many things in which we sin of which we may not be currently aware.
Something done now, may at a future time, be an offense on the conscience.
"Go and sin no more" in my grumpy opinion here, does not mean Jesus was demanding her to have sinless perfection from that day on. I think what was a specific offense on her conscience about her adulterous tendencies she should do no more.
Perhaps, "Go [and commit adultery] NO MORE." might give us the sense of His command.
I could be wrong. At any rate this was before He accomplished His great redemption for all of our sins. And it was before He became available as the sanctifying and transforming life giving spirit to be able to enter into her.
Originally posted by sonshipInteresting.
I think we have to take into account the degree of awareness her human conscience informed her. .
There are many things in which we sin of which we may not be currently aware.
Something done now, may at a future time, be an offense on the conscience.
[b] "Go and sin no more" in my grumpy opinion here, does not mean Jesus was demanding her to hav ...[text shortened]... able as the sanctifying and transforming life giving spirit to be able to enter into her.[/b]
You said "I could be wrong".
In such an important matter as sin and redemption, why would Jesus be questioned?
He said what He said.
Those that cannot meet His standards will make all excuses.
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Originally posted by chaney3When I said I could be wrong, I was saying about my exegesis of the passage in question.
Interesting.
You said "I could be wrong".
In such an important matter as sin and redemption, why would Jesus be questioned?
He said what He said.
Those that cannot meet His standards will make all excuses.
I am not saying I could be wrong about Jesus Christ being the Redeemer.
We should pray something like this -
"Lord Jesus, You are the one completely absolute for the will of the Father. I lay my hands on You Lord. I thoroughly take You as my life and my all. I receive You Lord Jesus as my life. Live again Your life unto the Father in me. Thankyou Lord Jesus that I can say with Paul - " It is no longer I that live, but it is Christ Who lives in me."
We should exercise our faith in the Holy Spirit that Christ can be our all, and our Person, our life. He can be our Person. And we can say with that pioneer Paul -
" For to me to live is Christ ..."
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Originally posted by chaney3Such a command is entirely consistent with the teachings of Jesus while He walked the Earth, so there's no reason to believe that He didn't mean it.
5 words. Jesus said these words.
Most will say 'well, He really didn't mean it'. Yet, He said it.
When is it okay to take the words of Jesus literally? When we like it?
Then, when we don't like it, we struggle, at all means, to find an interpretation that suits us.
Jesus said these 5 words. He did not tell the woman to "go and commit no more adu ...[text shortened]... He said "go and sin no more".
Do Christians interpret the Bible to 'fit' their own opinions?
For example, Jesus also said the following to the man Jesus healed at the Bethesda:
John 5
14Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you.”
Jesus taught what He taught, but many Christians don't seem to believe Him (like with the text of His words from John 8).
Do Christians interpret the Bible to 'fit' their own opinions?
The Bible is filled with inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions. Though most refuse to admit it, they pick and choose the verses and passages that support their beliefs and dismiss those that don't and often do so in a most disingenuous manner