1. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    23 Jun '05 07:56
    Originally posted by kellsy
    Any proper comments on why God sent the Angels to war but he forbids us from going to war, I know why but do you.
    I don't think God exists. Therefore the question is irrelevant.
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    23 Jun '05 09:00
    Originally posted by kellsy
    Any proper comments on why God sent the Angels to war but he forbids us from going to war, I know why but do you.
    Who cares?

    What does this have to do with anything?

    God? Angels?

    Have you ever met either of them?

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    23 Jun '05 10:241 edit
    Originally posted by kellsy
    Any proper comments on why God sent the Angels to war but he forbids us from going to war, I know why but do you.
    did God tell us not to go to war? he told us to love our heighbour, but if we are attacked then we must go to war! (To war, to war, Fredonia’s going to war!).

    anyway, if you mean God sending angels against fallen angels? well, that war is a war to end all wars! when God wins, and throws satan and his angels into the fire he has prepared there shall be no more wars as there shall just be good. (although i don't know if angels shall fight angels) basically, when angels fight it is, well, the ultimate fight...sorta...

    but if you mean angels fighting men? God does this is (i think) judges. he sends the army of the lord out against an invading army before the judge in question send his men in. i'm presuming this is because, well, what can a man do against an angel? a heavenly being sent to do God's bidding? not a lot, methinks...so he could protect his people, Israel.
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    23 Jun '05 12:15
    Originally posted by kellsy
    Interesting, and close, you are very bright, but we must not go to war, WHY?
    well, we could let other armies take us over? i mean, do you really think that the Nazi's ruling over europe was a good thing. war may not be good, but if war saves lives and stop's evil happening...

    i was gonna say, "war is the lesser of two evils" but in that case, war isn't evil.
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    23 Jun '05 12:19
    Originally posted by kellsy
    Dont get involved in things you dont know about, or things that are irelivant in your tiny world.
    Don't post in a public forum if you don't want people to question your fairy stories.
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    23 Jun '05 12:26
    Originally posted by kellsy
    Any proper comments on why God sent the Angels to war but he forbids us from going to war, I know why but do you.
    Because the god you worship is not the all-powerful Father that Christ spoke of. The result of that is you have never understood Christ's message.
  7. Donationrwingett
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    23 Jun '05 13:19
    Originally posted by kellsy
    I understand what you say and agree that one should defend against the likes of Nazi type hate, but all wars on earth are made by man, not by God, God forbids war between men, do you know WHY?
    Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid or discouraged.  Take the entire army and attack Ai, for I have given to you the king of Ai, his people, his city, and his land.  You will destroy them as you destroyed Jericho and its king. But this time you may keep the captured goods and the cattle for yourselves. Set an ambush behind the city."  So Joshua and the army of Israel set out to attack Ai.  Joshua chose thirty thousand fighting men and sent them out at night with these orders: "Hide in ambush close behind the city and be ready for action.  When our main army attacks, the men of Ai will come out to fight as they did before, and we will run away from them.  We will let them chase us until they have all left the city. For they will say, 'The Israelites are running away from us as they did before.'  Then you will jump up from your ambush and take possession of the city, for the LORD your God will give it to you.  Set the city on fire, as the LORD has commanded.  You have your orders."  So they left that night and lay in ambush between Bethel and the west side of Ai.  But Joshua remained among the people in the camp that night. 
        Early the next morning Joshua roused his men and started toward Ai, accompanied by the leaders of Israel.  They camped on the north side of Ai, with a valley between them and the city.  That night Joshua sent five thousand men to lie in ambush between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of the city.  So they stationed the main army north of the city and the ambush west of the city.  Joshua himself spent that night in the valley.  When the king of Ai saw the Israelites across the valley, he and all his army hurriedly went out early the next morning and attacked the Israelites at a place overlooking the Jordan Valley.  But he didn't realize there was an ambush behind the city.  Joshua and the Israelite army fled toward the wilderness as though they were badly beaten,  and all the men in the city were called out to chase after them.  In this way, they were lured away from the city.  There was not a man left in Ai or Bethel who did not chase after the Israelites, and the city was left wide open. 
        Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Point your spear toward Ai, for I will give you the city."  Joshua did as he was commanded.  As soon as Joshua gave the signal, the men in ambush jumped up and poured into the city.  They quickly captured it and set it on fire.  When the men of Ai looked behind them, smoke from the city was filling the sky, and they had nowhere to go. For the Israelites who had fled in the direction of the wilderness now turned on their pursuers.  When Joshua and the other Israelites saw that the ambush had succeeded and that smoke was rising from the city, they turned and attacked the men of Ai.  Then the Israelites who were inside the city came out and started killing the enemy from the rear. So the men of Ai were caught in a trap, and all of them died. Not a single person survived or escaped.  Only the king of Ai was taken alive and brought to Joshua.
        When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside.  So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all.  For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed.  Only the cattle and the treasures of the city were not destroyed, for the Israelites kept these for themselves, as the LORD had commanded Joshua.  So Ai became a permanent mound of ruins, desolate to this very day.  Joshua hung the king of Ai on a tree and left him there until evening. At sunset the Israelites took down the body and threw it in front of the city gate.  They piled a great heap of stones over him that can still be seen today.  (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)
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    23 Jun '05 13:36
    Originally posted by rwingett
    [b]Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid or discouraged.  Take the entire army and attack Ai, for I have given to you the king of Ai, his people, his city, and his land.  You will destroy them as you destroyed Jericho and its king. But this time you may keep the captured goods and the cattle for yourselves. Set an ambush behind the city."  S ...[text shortened]... They piled a great heap of stones over him that can still be seen today.  (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)
    [/b]
    Beat me to it.
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    23 Jun '05 15:031 edit
    y posted by kellsy[/i]
    You can state what you want and even go to the book of judges as then you can state about more wars, ie the Canaanites and Perizzites, but you have not given me an answer to my riddle about Angels and man, you might not know the answer and that is why ...[text shortened]... just pointing out facts that do not give an answer to the riddle.
    Your "riddle" is nonsensical. You asked:

    Any proper comments on why God sent the Angels to war but he forbids us from going to war, I know why but do you.

    I gave you a biblical passage which demonstrates conclusively that not only does god NOT forbid us from going to war, but he actively COMMANDS us to go to war. Thus your riddle makes no sense. It cannot be answered in the manner you seem to want.
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    23 Jun '05 15:071 edit
    It wasn't a question... or it would have had something that looks like this:



    ?



    No question mark, no question. Next thread please.

    RX
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