11 Feb 13
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Originally posted by wolfgang59Christians believe that God is One in trinity, that is, there are three person, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit that make up the one God. So it was God the Son, who John calls the Word, that appeared as the angel of God to Moses. God the Father has never appeared to man in any form that we could see physically.
"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
that meant up to that moment in time?
didnt moses see god when he collected the tablets?
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
NO ONE HAS SEEN GOD THE FATHER, BUT GOD THE SON HAS DECLARED HIM.
(John 1:1-3,14,17-18 NKJV)
"I and My Father are one.”
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
(John 10:30-33 NKJV)
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
(John 14:6-9 NKJV)
When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
(John 28:17-20 NKJV)
P.S.
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
(1 Timothy 3:16 NKJV)
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
11 Feb 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59As I said before there are three persons of the Trinity of God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Jacob saw God the Son manifesting himself as the angel of God, but a little differently than He had with Moses, who was afraid to look upon Him. The statement that "no one has seen God at any time" was referring to God the Father. I am sorry you don't get that, but you can go on believing as you wish. I don't know how I could make it any more clear.
The bible's wrong.
Or Jacob was lying.
"Jacob said, 'I have seen God face to face, ...'" (Genesis 32:30)
Originally posted by wolfgang59Well, I don't think Jacob, whose name God changed to Israel, knew any difference. But it is my belief that Jacob saw the manifestation of the second person of the triune God that said, "Let us make man in our image."
OK.
So for clarity the Hinds Authorised Bible Genesis 32:30 will say
Jacob said, 'I have seen God the Son face to face, ...'"
11 Feb 13
Originally posted by RJHindsSo when god made man he had a choice of 3 prototypes.
The second person of the Triune God is God, numbnuts. So is the Father and so is the Holy Spirit. There is one God in three persons, that is the meaning of the Trinity to Christians.
(Father Son HolySpirit)
and it is your belief he choice to model man after Jesus?