1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    Pope John Paul II says Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory are not places, but states of existence.

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2heavn.htm
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    http://www.medjugorje.com/medjugorje/heaven-purgatory-hell/614-stories-of-seeing-heaven-purgatory-and-hell.html

    Could they each be both a place and a state of being?
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    11 May '12 03:44
    Purgatory

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory
  4. Standard memberRJHinds
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    11 May '12 03:46
    Hell

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
  5. Standard memberRJHinds
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    Heaven

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven
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    Purgatory does not exist and is not a Bible teaching........


    Purgatory
    Definition: “According to the teaching of the [Roman Catholic] Church, the state, place, or condition in the next world . . . where the souls of those who die in the state of grace, but not yet free from all imperfection, make expiation for unforgiven venial sins or for the temporal punishment due to venial and mortal sins that have already been forgiven and, by so doing, are purified before they enter heaven.” (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XI, p. 1034)

    On what is the teaching of purgatory based?

    After reviewing what Catholic writers have said regarding such texts as 2 Maccabees 12:39-45, Matthew 12:32, and 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, Vol. XI, p. 1034) acknowledges: “In the final analysis, the Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on tradition, not Sacred Scripture.”
    “The church has relied on tradition to support a middle ground between heaven and hell.”—U.S. Catholic, March 1981, p. 7.

    Regarding the nature of purgatory, what do Catholic spokesmen say?
    “Many think that the total suffering of purgatory is identified with the awareness of the temporary postponement of the beatific vision, although the more common view holds that, in addition to this, there is some positive punishment . . . In the Latin Church it has been generally maintained that this pain is imposed through real fire. This is not, however, essential to belief in purgatory. It is not even certain. . . . Even if one chooses, with the theologians of the East, to reject the idea of suffering induced by fire, one should be careful not to exclude all positive suffering from purgatory. There are still real affliction, sorrow, chagrin, shame of conscience, and other spiritual sorrows capable of inflicting true pain on the soul. . . . One should remember, at any rate, that in the midst of their sufferings these souls also experience great joy over the certainty of salvation.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. XI, p. 1036, 1037.

    “What goes on in purgatory is anyone’s guess.”—U.S. Catholic, March 1981, p. 9.
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    Near-Death experience of the After-Life.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research15.html
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Pope John Paul II says Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory are not places, but states of existence.

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2heavn.htm


    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://www.medjugorje.com/medjugorje/heaven-purgatory-hell/614-stories-of-seeing-heaven-purgatory-and-hell.html

    Could they each be both a place and a state of being?


    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Purgatory

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory


    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Hell

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell


    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Heaven

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven

    Sing me a song, you're a singer
    Do me a wrong, you're a bringer of evil
    The devil is never a maker
    And he less that you give, you're a taker
    It goes on and on and on, it's heaven and hell
    Oh well

    The lover of life's not a sinner
    And the ending is just a beginner
    The closer you get to the meaning
    Well, the sooner you'll know that you're dreaming
    And it goes on and on and on, oh it's on and on and on
    It goes on and on and on, Heaven and Hell
    I can tell
    Sometimes we’re are fools

    Oh, we’re going down

    Something is evil down there
    Someone is coming to take your soul away
    I see some trouble up there
    You’ll not make it to another day

    There’s a big black shape looking up at me
    He said: “I know where you ought to be”
    He said: “Come with me and I’ll give you desire!
    First you got to burn, burn, burn in fire!”

    Down we go
    I’ll take you there, I’ll see you there, we’ll always be there
    Somewhere in hell

    Well, they say that life's a carousel
    Spinning fast, you've got to ride it well
    The world is full of kings and queens
    Who’ll blind your eyes and steal your dreams
    It's heaven and hell, oh well

    And they'll tell you black is really white
    The moon is just the sun at night
    And when you walk in golden halls
    You get to keep the gold that falls
    It's heaven and hell, oh no, no

    Fool, fool
    You've got to bleed for the dancer
    Fool, fool, fool
    Look for the answer
    Alright, alright
    Heaven and hell

    Well, it’s heaven, it’s heaven, it’s heaven and hell

    On and on, on and on
    It’s heaven and hell
    On and on, on and on
    It’s heaven and hell
    On and on, on and on
    It’s heaven and hell
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