Holes in the Theory of Evolution

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
Clearly He wouldn't do this by revealing Earthly tangible evidence of natural selection and species development would He? I would imaine that God would not want you to remain ignorant or he would not have equipped you with your rudmentary abilty to reason and explore the mysteries of the physical world.

Exactly. HalleluYah !!! 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
Exactly. HalleluYah !!! 😏

My dog could outwit you.

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
My dog could outwit you.

I would listen to your dog quicker than I would anything coming out
of your big smelly arse. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
I would listen to your dog quicker than I would anything coming out
of your big smelly arse. 😏

And you'd be wiser for it.

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
And you'd be wiser for it.

I'm glad you see it that way. Maybe, one day you will be as wise
as your dog. Good luck. 😏

Originally posted by twhitehead
But his faith is not based on early church tradition. It is based on a literal reading of the Bible. So yes, he would be abandoning his faith.

In my mind, he'd be getting closer to the orthodox.

Originally posted by epiphinehas
In my mind, he'd be getting closer to the orthodox.

And loosing his current faith in the process. Hence he feels threatened.

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
Clearly He wouldn't do this by revealing Earthly tangible evidence of natural selection and species development would He? I would imaine that God would not want you to remain ignorant or he would not have equipped you with your rudmentary abilty to reason and explore the mysteries of the physical world.

If God had wanted me to believe in evolution he would not have
inspired holy men to write about creation instead of evolution.
He would not have preserved these writings over thousand of
years against the efforts of evil men to destroy them. Yet today
we have more copies of these writing in many languages than every.

God would have provided many evidences of transitional forms
as Darwin stated. But no he did not provide any transition forms
in the fossil record at all. The only so-called transitional forms
have now all been found to be fraud perpetuated on the public
due to the evolutionists vested interest in trying to prove that
evolution is true. However, by their lies, they have cast more
doubt on Darwin's precious theory of evolution. Now with the
discovery of DNA, RNA, and extraordinary complexity in the
design of nature so that it is reaching a point that the theory
of evolution is falling apart and the evolutionists must lie even
more, since their own people are beginning to abandon the idea.

Originally posted by RJHinds
If God had wanted me to believe in evolution he would not have
inspired holy men to write about creation instead of evolution.
He would not have preserved these writings over thousand of
years against the efforts of evil men to destroy them. Yet today
we have more copies of these writing in many languages than every.

God would have provided many evid ...[text shortened]... he evolutionists must lie even
more, since their own people are beginning to abandon the idea.

You presume that god both exists and gives a damn what you believe.

You [wrongly] criticise science for not having evidence to back it's claims
while claiming things that are wholly and completely unsubstantiated.

There are Holy men who wrote about creation in many different religions,
many of which are still around today and in force, even more have had their
writings preserved for us to see, all of which contradict each other.

If god wanted to inspire men to tell them how the world was, he wouldn't
be this spectacularly incompetent at it.

And nobody sane in biology is abandoning the idea of evolution.
The massively overwhelmingly large majority of biologists accept evolution,
as well as the overwhelming majority of scientists as a whole.

You are talking complete bunk as normal.

Only the fact that you happen to live in a little corner of the world where most
people are poorly educated and indoctrinated into the nonsense of your twisted
religion could allow you to believe that any sort of majority of informed people
think that evolution is anything other than confirmed fact.

You have no comprehension of what evolution is or how it works, and neither
understand, value, or accept the scientific method, or rational skepticism, and thus
have no basis or grounding for any reasoned understanding or analysis of evolutionary
theory.

There is no conspiracy in science to claim things that are false to be true.
There is no vested interest in sticking to some dogmatic position.

No better demonstration of the scientific principles in action can be found than the
work of the people investigating the potential discovery of FTL neutrinos.
If confirmed they would be proof positive the long accepted and respected theories were
wrong, and/or incomplete. It would blow a hole in the standard model, the most successful
theory in physics and rival to evolution for the most successful theory in science.

Physicists aren't hiding this, or worrying about this, they are going wherever the evidence
leads them, as they should, and as the scientific method dictates.

Evolution is an observed fact, both macro and micro evolution has been directly observed.

Every creationist argument against evolution has been obliterated.

And every creationist proponent, preacher and author knows this.

Making them big lying fraudulent hypocrites.

There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of 'transitional' fossils even by the strictest
definitions of such a term.
All strands of evidence, including genetics, point to the same conclusions.
There is no debate in science as to the validity of evolution, because it is undisputed, and
indisputable fact, that evolution happens, and explains the complexity of life on this planet
without caveat, flaw, or reservation.

Originally posted by RJHinds
If God had wanted me to believe in evolution he would not have
inspired holy men to write about creation instead of evolution.
He would not have preserved these writings over thousand of
years against the efforts of evil men to destroy them. Yet today
we have more copies of these writing in many languages than every.

God would have provided many evid ...[text shortened]... he evolutionists must lie even
more, since their own people are beginning to abandon the idea.

Maybe god has inspired all those 'evolutionists' to write about that in order to clear up the garbled account that he once inspired in people who didn't have the necessary education to understand how he really went about creating the world?

Originally posted by googlefudge
You presume that god both exists and gives a damn what you believe.

You [wrongly] criticise science for not having evidence to back it's claims
while claiming things that are wholly and completely unsubstantiated.

There are Holy men who wrote about creation in many different religions,
many of which are still around today and in force, even more and explains the complexity of life on this planet
without caveat, flaw, or reservation.

Everytime the scientist of their day have claimed something that
was contrary to the Holy Bible and had gotten most people to
believe them, the Holy Bible has come out victorious later when
more facts were known. You know that practically everyone had
been convinced by early scientists that the earth was flat even
most religious leaders, who had the Holy Bible to tell them different.
But now it has been confirmed that they were wrong and the Holy
Bible was right.

It was was once thought by the scientists of the past that the
Universe had always existed contrary to the Holy Bible and nearly
everyone had been convinced that the scientist were right. Now
the scientist are coming to believe the universe had a beginning.
This again confirms the correctness of the Holy Bible.

Today most people have been convinced that evolution is a fact
in contradiction to what the Holy Bible says. But now with new
discoveries, the idea of evolution is coming more doubtful and
eventually the Holy Bible will be shown to be right again.

HalleluYah !!!

Originally posted by RJHinds
Everytime the scientist of their day have claimed something that
was contrary to the Holy Bible and had gotten most people to
believe them, the Holy Bible has come out victorious later when
more facts were known. You know that practically everyone had
been convinced by early scientists that the earth was flat even
most religious leaders, who had the H ...[text shortened]... more doubtful and
eventually the Holy Bible will be shown to be right again.

HalleluYah !!!

No, you have that backwards.

The bible, and the people who wrote it, believed that the earth was flat.

The closest approximation to scientists of the time knew it was round.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/1flat90.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Many of the contenders for Theory of Everything have the universe in
some form existing for ever.
It's just our little portion of it that began it's present existence around
13.7 BILLION years ago, and claiming the science that says this as support
for the bibles YEC idea is patently idiotic.

The theory of Evolution has only got stronger in the 1560 yrs since Darwin.
So you are just making stuff up, again.


Now I say you are wrong, you say you are right, how do we tell?

Rationality has the answer, you look at the evidence, and apply reason
and logic to come to an objective conclusion.

Otherwise all you are doing is having a shouting match.

Originally posted by googlefudge
No, you have that backwards.

The bible, and the people who wrote it, believed that the earth was flat.

The closest approximation to scientists of the time knew it was round.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/1flat90.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Many of the contenders for T ...[text shortened]... to come to an objective conclusion.

Otherwise all you are doing is having a shouting match.

I have looked around and saw evidence and I applied reason and logic
to it like you said and my conclusion is still the same. There is no proof
of evolution and all the evidence points to the fact that an extremely
intelligent source caused the universe, including life on earth to come
into being. And this intelligent source must be eternal and uncaused.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I have looked around and saw evidence and I applied reason and logic
to it like you said and my conclusion is still the same. There is no proof
of evolution and all the evidence points to the fact that an extremely
intelligent source caused the universe, including life on earth to come
into being. And this intelligent source must be eternal and uncaused.

Show me the proof and reasoning that the universe MUST have a cause and that cause MUST be an intelligent being who MUST be eternal and uncaused.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Show me the proof and reasoning that the universe MUST have a cause and that cause MUST be an intelligent being who MUST be eternal and uncaused.

I don't know how to show all the proof on the internet.