How many Christians believe ..
14 Apr '18 12:23Originally posted by @sonshipok .. but you claim to have seen Jesus Christ.
I pay them no attention.
Thread over.
Let me get out before it devolves into another gossip fest.
How is that different?
14 Apr '18 12:23Originally posted by @sonshipok .. but you claim to have seen Jesus Christ.
I pay them no attention.
Thread over.
Let me get out before it devolves into another gossip fest.
14 Apr '18 18:464 editsOriginally posted by @rajk999Excuse me? I never said I saw Jesus Christ physically.
ok .. but you claim to have seen Jesus Christ.
How is that different?
"But whenever [the heart] turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. " (2 Cor. 3:15)
" ... the veil is taken away. And the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom.
And we all [we believers in Christ] BEHOLDING and REFLECTING the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory even as from the Lord Spirit." (See 2 Cor. 3:16-18)
"THE EYES OF YOUR HEART having been enlightened, that you may know the hope of His calling ..." (Eph. 1:18)
" But we see Jesus, who was made a little inferior to the angels because of the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death on behalf of everything." (Hebrews 2:9)
O God. I cannot see Jesus. O God they keep talking about Jesus. I can't SEE it God. I cannot see this Jesus they speak of . O God have mercy to open my eyes - the eyes of my heart.
O God apply the eyesalve to anoint my eyes as you spoke in Revelation 3:18 saying -
"I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire that you may be rich, and white garments that the shame of your nakedness may not be manifested, AND EYESALVE to anoint your eyes THAT YOU MAY SEE."
"And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled in those who are perishing.
In whom the god of this age has blinded the thoughts of the unbelievers that the illumination of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, might shine on them.
Because the God who said, Out of darkness light shall shine, is the One who shined in our hearts to illuminate the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." (2 Cor. 4:3-6)
God, do have mercy on this man.
15 Apr '18 11:54Originally posted by @sonshipWhat utter nonsense. You said in the last decade on this site, more than once that you met Jesus. I have never seen Jesus, nor do I think that is necessarily a virtue or something desirable. I will see Him at my appointed time.
Excuse me? I never said I saw Jesus Christ physically.
I never wrote that.
Someone has been warning you about bearing false witness many times.
Now, I would say that in the New Testament sense of [b]"beholding and reflecting the glory of the Lord" the believers have "seen" Jesus. The more this kind of "seeing" the better.
"But wh ...[text shortened]... ou can't say that you have seen Jesus too ??
[quote] God, do have mercy on this man.
15 Apr '18 17:52Originally posted by @rajk999Jesus Christ definitely knows you.
What utter nonsense. You said in the last decade on this site, more than once that you met Jesus. I have never seen Jesus, nor do I think that is necessarily a virtue or something desirable. I will see Him at my appointed time.
This seeing and meeting Jesus thing is mostly [not necessarily always] a sham used by conartist pastors and preachers to get f ...[text shortened]... .. I walk the other way.
I know Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ knows me.
That is what matters.
15 Apr '18 18:32Originally posted by @romans1009Quote the Bible.
Jesus Christ definitely knows you.
But if you don’t believe Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, you don’t know Him. Not by a long shot.
15 Apr '18 18:34Originally posted by @rajk999There’s a whole thread on here in which I did just that.
Quote the Bible.
15 Apr '18 18:371 editOriginally posted by @romans1009You quoted yes but nothing you quoted says this:
There’s a whole thread on here in which I did just that.
15 Apr '18 20:55Originally posted by @rajk999If you don’t believe Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, you obviously don’t know or understand Him and His remarkably sacrificial love for mankind. You just know Him as a teacher. He was much, much more than that.
You quoted yes but nothing you quoted says this:
.. if you don’t believe Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, you don’t know Him..
That is church doctrine.
I talk Bible talk, not church doctrine
15 Apr '18 21:12Originally posted by @romans1009More Church opinions
If you don’t believe Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, you obviously don’t know or understand Him and His remarkably sacrificial love for mankind. You just know Him as a teacher. He was much, much more than that.
15 Apr '18 21:47Originally posted by @rajk999So you reject Christ’s deity, you reject Christ’s sacrificial death, you reject Christ’s Resurrection, you reject God’s New Covenant with man, you reject that Christ was born of a virgin, you reject that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and you reject that the Holy Spirit indwells people who accept Christ into their heart.
More Church opinions
15 Apr '18 21:55Originally posted by @romans1009Did the church pastor remove your brains?
So you reject Christ’s deity, you reject Christ’s sacrificial death, you reject Christ’s Resurrection, you reject God’s New Covenant with man, you reject that Christ was born of a virgin, you reject that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and you reject that the Holy Spirit indwells people who accept Christ into their heart.
Jesus Chri ...[text shortened]... good teacher and mortal man.
Are all of those statements accurate as far as what you believe?
15 Apr '18 21:57Originally posted by @rajk999Why won’t you answer those questions? They are questions on doctrine. I have to ask them because you change your position so often and I don’t know if what you believe today is the same as what you believed a week ago.
Did the church pastor remove your brains?
15 Apr '18 23:47Originally posted by @rajk999You talk trash most of the time, and you appear to lack any critical thinking skills or have a lick of common sense.
I talk Bible talk, not church doctrine
15 Apr '18 23:54Originally posted by @secondsonBlessed are those with critical thinking skills or have a lick of common sense: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Second Son's Pastor 5:3 )
You talk trash most of the time, and you appear to lack any critical thinking skills or have a lick of common sense.
15 Apr '18 23:56Originally posted by @rajk999Why do you hate people who go to church? Why do you mock people who read the Bible?
Blessed are those with critical thinking skills or have a lick of common sense: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Second Son's Pastor 5:3 )
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