15 Mar '13 20:27>
http://www.youtube.com/user/mhfm1?v=WRB16BARvz0&feature=pyv&ad=7367214632&kw=shroud%20of%20jesus
Originally posted by divegeesterThe atheist in that video can not honestly deny that the Shroud is the burial garment of Jesus. What he has decided to do is deny the resurrection by claiming that the early Christians saw this image of Jesus instead of the real resurrected body.
OK, I accept that the shroud is a genuine burial garment of a person who was brutalised and wrapped in it.
What now?
Originally posted by RJHindsRead my post again dude and THEN post a reply.
The atheist in that video can not honestly deny that the Shroud is the burial garment of Jesus. What he has decided to do is deny the resurrection by claiming that the early Christians saw this image of Jesus instead of the real resurrected body.
Originally posted by divegeesterWhat I'm getting at is that in all of recorded history, there is no other burial shroud with an image on it. So whatever got the image on the cloth had to be an extraordinary event.
How would I know! How does the centre of the sun work, I don't know that either but I believe it is the sun. Not sure what you are getting at.
Originally posted by divegeesterWhat now?
OK, I accept that the shroud is a genuine burial garment of a person who was brutalised and wrapped in it.
What now?
Originally posted by SuzianneLet me make myself perfectly clear, I don't care for the shroud because it is an idol, a relic, another vicarious point of interest other than Jesus Christ, it is a distraction and for some a crutch onto which they rest their battered faith in the vain hope this grotty little rag will somehow rekindle the fire that once burned brightly if at all.
What I'm getting at is that in all of recorded history, there is no other burial shroud with an image on it. So whatever got the image on the cloth had to be an extraordinary event.
Now whether that event was the resurrection of Jesus Christ or the handiwork of some medieval artist is another question, one that hasn't been answered yet.
Your attitude magine RJ's belief system (only so far as it regards the Shroud), if only for a moment.
Originally posted by divegeesterI personally don't care for relics either, as, like you, I believe our focus should indeed be our Lord Jesus Christ.
Let me make myself perfectly clear, I don't care for the shroud because it is an idol, a relic, another vicarious point of interest other than Jesus Christ, it is a distraction and for some a crutch onto which they rest their battered faith in the vain hope this grotty little rag will somehow rekindle the fire that once burned brightly if at all.
The ...[text shortened]... gh and yes I do find it astounding that people seeking God pay any regard to this distraction.