1. Standard memberBigDogg
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    13 Aug '20 06:03
    @secondson said
    Apparently you've never tried to get someone to obey you against their will.
    Speaking as an older brother, twisting a limb the wrong way works nicely.
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    13 Aug '20 07:31
    @wolfgang59 said

    Does a lie gain credibility if believed for millennia?
    Obviously not.

    A repeated lie (over millennia) doesn't become credible, it becomes deeply entrenched.
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    @bigdoggproblem said
    Speaking as an older brother, twisting a limb the wrong way works nicely.
    Speaking as a younger brother, a solid kick in the shin is the best remedy to the arm twisting.
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    @bigdoggproblem said
    Speaking as an older brother, twisting a limb the wrong way works nicely.
    Good point!
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Speaking as a younger brother, a solid kick in the shin is the best remedy to the arm twisting.
    Then there's the groin kick!
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    14 Aug '20 10:42
    @kegge said
    What makes you think anything you believe is less stupid? Is it less stupid to believe in Santa Claus than it is to believe in the Easter Bunny?
    The truth isn't stupid. Fairytales aren't stupid either. Just those that believe them.
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    @rajk999 said
    Are you doubting now that you preach a doctrine of once saved always saved and nothing, no good works, no righteousness is required, and that all sin is forgiven?

    The only stupid people are those like you who preach that garbage.
    No matter how you say it you misunderstand and misrepresent what I believe.

    Only stupid people believe what you say.
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    @secondson said
    The truth isn't stupid. Fairytales aren't stupid either. Just those that believe them.
    How do we differentiate between Fairy-tales?
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    @rajk999 said
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    @secondson said
    The truth isn't stupid.
    Which truth might that be in relation to Santa and the Easter bunny?
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Not obvious to me.

    Care to explain?
    You asked “Does a lie gain credibility if believed for millennia?” I answered “yes obviously”.

    The explanation that the lie (sic) has gained credibility with billions and billions and billions of people, is evidenced by the fact that billions and billions and billions of people believe it and find it credible.

    So yes, it’s obvious that a lie can become more credible if believed over a long time.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    How do we differentiate between Fairy-tales?
    Good question. Do you know?

    I think it's a question of separating the facts from fiction, and the truth from the lie. It shouldn't be that difficult. It starts with being honest with oneself.
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    @kegge said
    Which truth might that be in relation to Santa and the Easter bunny?
    All truth.
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    @divegeester said
    You asked “Does a lie gain credibility if believed for millennia?” I answered “yes obviously”.

    The explanation that the lie (sic) has gained credibility with billions and billions and billions of people, is evidenced by the fact that billions and billions and billions of people believe it and find it credible.

    So yes, it’s obvious that a lie can become more credible if believed over a long time.
    1984...
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    @secondson said
    All truth.
    Perhaps you didn't understand the question. This is the line of discussion and the question you avoid answering is: why is what you believe less stupid than what 999 believes?

    999: Your Christian church tell you that you and God are pals, therefore you can sin all you like and God will be merciful, because you are saved.

    SS: You must be very stupid if you believe that's true. That is so idiotic I can't imagine there might be anything I could say to you that would make you realize you believe a lie.

    K: What makes you think anything you believe is less stupid? Is it less stupid to believe in Santa Claus than it is to believe in the Easter Bunny?

    SS: The truth isn't stupid. Fairytales aren't stupid either. Just those that believe them.

    K: Which truth might that be in relation to Santa and the Easter bunny?

    SS: All truth.
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