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    All players in the story of Jesus' execution, we are told, had free will and their actions were not pre-determined. So, if Jesus had not been executed for his perceived transgressions, or if the political tug of war between the Jews and the Romans had resulted only in Jesus serving a spell in gaol, or being exiled, what would have become of 'Christianity' in subsequent years, decades, centuries? Would his teachings have sustained a significant movement that broke with Judaism?
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    03 Apr '10 01:54
    Originally posted by FMF
    All players in the story of Jesus' execution, we are told, had free will and their actions were not pre-determined. So, if Jesus had not been executed for his perceived transgressions, or if the political tug of war between the Jews and the Romans had resulted only in Jesus serving a spell in gaol, or being exiled, what would have become of 'Christianity' in sub ...[text shortened]... centuries? Would his teachings have sustained a significant movement that broke with Judaism?
    Jesus would have converted Paul into chopped liver. He would have hired a stenographer and said, "No, you friggin' retards, THIS is what I said..."
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    Originally posted by FMF
    All players in the story of Jesus' execution, we are told, had free will and their actions were not pre-determined. So, if Jesus had not been executed for his perceived transgressions, or if the political tug of war between the Jews and the Romans had resulted only in Jesus serving a spell in gaol, or being exiled, what would have become of 'Christianity' in sub ...[text shortened]... centuries? Would his teachings have sustained a significant movement that broke with Judaism?
    We would wear a miniature jail door or a suitcase around our necks.😕
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    None of us would be saved! We needed his blood to pay for our sins.

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    05 Apr '10 20:00
    Originally posted by FMF
    All players in the story of Jesus' execution, we are told, had free will and their actions were not pre-determined. So, if Jesus had not been executed for his perceived transgressions, or if the political tug of war between the Jews and the Romans had resulted only in Jesus serving a spell in gaol, or being exiled, what would have become of 'Christianity' in sub ...[text shortened]... centuries? Would his teachings have sustained a significant movement that broke with Judaism?
    maybe if he wouldn't have been killed, it would have proved humans are not jerks enough to need saving.
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    06 Apr '10 06:21
    Originally posted by FMF
    All players in the story of Jesus' execution, we are told, had free will and their actions were not pre-determined. So, if Jesus had not been executed for his perceived transgressions, or if the political tug of war between the Jews and the Romans had resulted only in Jesus serving a spell in gaol, or being exiled, what would have become of 'Christianity' in sub ...[text shortened]... centuries? Would his teachings have sustained a significant movement that broke with Judaism?
    No.
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    06 Apr '10 12:15
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    maybe if he wouldn't have been killed, it would have proved humans are not jerks enough to need saving.
    Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!! 😵
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    09 Apr '10 17:53
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    maybe if he wouldn't have been killed, it would have proved humans are not jerks enough to need saving.
    And the billions of others murdered throughout history proves...?
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    09 Apr '10 21:21
    Originally posted by Traveling Again
    And the billions of others murdered throughout history proves...?
    maybe if he wouldn't have been killed it would have meant that humans can get a good message and those billions wouldn't have been killed.

    those billions, in the context of jesus actually being killed, prove that humanity was and still is in fact a gathering of jerks.
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