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Originally posted by @eladarWhat children?
Do you think God could have saved the children if he wished?
Originally posted by @eladarWhat children?
Do you think God could have saved the children if he wished?
Originally posted by @whodeyWhat infants?
The targets were not the infants, were they.
Originally posted by @eladarMaybe you should have payed attention in Bio class.
Do you think God could have saved the children if he wished?
Originally posted by @whodeyAre you going to clear the record on whether you believe the same Jesus who loves us (all of us) will also be the same Jesus spectating the orchestrated torture of billions of us in an eternal fiery hell?
After all these threads about Jesus wanting people to burn in hell and being sexist, and being a neo Nazi, I just felt the need to clear the record.
Carry on.
Originally posted by @suzianneSo you don't think that there were infants and children in Sodom?
What children?
Originally posted by @divegeesterFrom what I've read of the Bible it appears that a place of eternal torment exists.
Are you going to clear the record on whether you believe the same Jesus who loves us (all of us) will also be the same Jesus spectating the orchestrated torture of billions of us in an eternal fiery hell?
Because this is the really the nub of the matter Whodey.
Originally posted by @eladarChildren suffer because of their parents. Many are abused in various ways or even have their lives cut short because of their actions. Is this just?
So you don't think that there were infants and children in Sodom?
Originally posted by @whodeyIsn't God responsible for giving those kids to those parents?
Children suffer because of their parents. Many are abused in various ways or even have their lives cut short because of their actions. Is this just?
There is not much just in a world of sin, but I trust that God can make it right again some day.
Originally posted by @whodeyYour assertion has no moral content. Whatever it is, it's "justice"... because you say so... because you believe it is? It seems to have no moral substance or no function as a moral example. For example, what is a human application of this purportedly infinitely wise "justice"?
I'm not God Dive but I do trust that he is just and will deal out justice better than you or I could ever do based on his infinite wisdom which neither of us have.
Originally posted by @whodeySo you are comfortable with you belief that the Jesus who loves us will also be the Jesus who will torture billions of us for eternity?
From what I've read of the Bible it appears that a place of eternal torment exists.
I'm not God Dive but I do trust that he is just and will deal out justice better than you or I could ever do based on his infinite wisdom which neither of us have.
Originally posted by @fmfFMF, Jesus loves you, even if you don't believe in him, but only until you die. After that he will become a monster who will personally torture you in hell for eternity.
Your assertion has no moral content. Whatever it is, it's "justice"... because you say so... because you believe it is? It seems to have no moral substance or no function as a moral example. For example, what is a human application of this purportedly infinitely wise "justice"?
Originally posted by @fmfI simply recognize my limited ability to comprehend justice. I have my ideas, you have yours. At the end of the day, all of our thoughts vary to some degree or another, except for the same thought that we want justice.....except maybe for ourselves and those we love or care for. For those people we want mercy.
Your assertion has no moral content. Whatever it is, it's "justice"... because you say so... because you believe it is? It seems to have no moral substance or no function as a moral example. For example, what is a human application of this purportedly infinitely wise "justice"?
Originally posted by @divegeesterSpeaking of monsters, do you reckon Hitler will be your neighbor in the Pearly gates?
FMF, Jesus loves you, even if you don't believe in him, but only until you die. After that he will become a monster who will personally torture you in hell for eternity.
It's a complete and utter incomprehensible nonsense teaching.
Originally posted by @whodeyWhy are you changing the subject?
Speaking of monsters, do you reckon Hitler will be your neighbor in the Pearly gates?
Originally posted by @divegeesterI am simply moving from one perceived absurdity to another.
Why are you changing the subject?