1. Donationrwingett
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    19 Sep '12 01:19
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/18/fragment-suggests-jesus-was-married/?hpt=hp_c1

    A papyrus fragment has recently been uncovered wherein Jesus refers to his wife. Harvard Divinity School Professor Karen King said, "This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was married." Darrell Bock, a senior research professor of New Testament studies at Dallas Theological Seminary confirmed that interpretation by saying, "King's analysis is beyond dispute. This irrevocably changes our whole understanding of what the bible is really saying."
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    19 Sep '12 01:25
    http://judaism.about.com/od/jewishbeliefsandlaws/f/rabbis_celibacy.htm
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    19 Sep '12 13:151 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/18/fragment-suggests-jesus-was-married/?hpt=hp_c1

    A papyrus fragment has recently been uncovered wherein Jesus refers to his wife. Harvard Divinity School Professor Karen King said, "This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was married." Darrell Bock, a senior research professor of New Testament studies at D pute. This irrevocably changes our whole understanding of what the bible is really saying."
    This would only change the Roman Catholic view of what some of the Holy Bible is really saying. Most other Christian congregations do not require their Priests or Pastors to be celibate. It has always been speculated that the marriage at which Jesus turned water into wine for the wedding guest was His own wedding because of Mary being so concerned about the guests having enough wine. Why should she feel responsible unless she is mother of the bridegroom?

    P.S. Jewish law does not speak much to the question of how wedding costs should be split. Traditionally in the United States, the bride's family paid for the reception, photographer, flowers, and invitations. The groom's family paid for the rings, the rabbi, music, liquor, and the honeymoon.

    http://www.netplaces.com/jewish-weddings/the-planning-process/who-pays-for-what.htm
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    19 Sep '12 14:03
    Originally posted by rwingett
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/18/fragment-suggests-jesus-was-married/?hpt=hp_c1

    A papyrus fragment has recently been uncovered wherein Jesus refers to his wife. Harvard Divinity School Professor Karen King said, "This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was married." Darrell Bock, a senior research professor of New Testament studies at D ...[text shortened]... pute. This irrevocably changes our whole understanding of what the bible is really saying."
    Wait until the christians of today who call themselves the 'bride of christ' find out that he's taken. 🙂
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    19 Sep '12 15:04
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Wait until the christians of today who call themselves the 'bride of christ' find out that he's taken. 🙂
    The marriage on Earth is "Till Death Do Us Part." The marriage in Heaven is a spiritual marriage that is forever. 😏

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    19 Sep '12 18:281 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    This would only change the Roman Catholic view of what some of the Holy Bible is really saying. Most other Christian congregations do not require their Priests or Pastors to be celibate. It has always been speculated that the marriage at which Jesus turned water into wine for the wedding guest was His own wedding because of Mary being so concerned about th eymoon.

    http://www.netplaces.com/jewish-weddings/the-planning-process/who-pays-for-what.htm
    The article goes on to say that based upon a close examination of the Coptic text, it was unlikely that Jesus had a photographer at his wedding. Karen King says that, "The tradition of having the bride's family pay for the photographer was most likely a later gnostic practice."
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    19 Sep '12 19:29
    Originally posted by rwingett
    The article goes on to say that based upon a close examination of the Coptic text, it was unlikely that Jesus had a photographer at his wedding. Karen King says that, "The tradition of having the bride's family pay for the photographer was most likely a later gnostic practice."
    Besides, the text was from hundreds of years after Jesus so it is generations away from any horses mouth statement.....
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    19 Sep '12 19:48
    Originally posted by rwingett
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/18/fragment-suggests-jesus-was-married/?hpt=hp_c1

    A papyrus fragment has recently been uncovered wherein Jesus refers to his wife. Harvard Divinity School Professor Karen King said, "This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was married." Darrell Bock, a senior research professor of New Testament studies at D ...[text shortened]... pute. This irrevocably changes our whole understanding of what the bible is really saying."
    Slow down. It has not even been verified as authentic yet.

    Furthermore the Harvard professor who released it said this in no way is difinitive proof that Jesus was married.

    Personally, its very possible IMO that Jesus was married. Also, that he was not.
    It makes no difference to me. Takes nothing away from his message.
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    19 Sep '12 20:33
    Been mentioned before. R.Cs have no problem with priests marrying, as its a church law. Not gods law, which is set in stone
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    19 Sep '12 21:45
    Originally posted by stoker
    Been mentioned before. R.Cs have no problem with priests marrying, as its a church law. Not gods law, which is set in stone
    So god was stoned when he set those laws?
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    19 Sep '12 21:531 edit
    Catholics of course have no issue with married priests per se. There are of course a number of exceptions in which a married man can become a Catholic priest. The norm of mandatory celibacy is only a discipline of the Western church and it can be changed.

    I think, however, the idea of Jesus being married does present a christological problem. If Jesus is God, how can he experience erotic love? There has been a huge amount of theological argybargy about Jesus being man and God, and whether he experiences temptation or not. I think a married Jesus would present a number of problems for the doctrine of the hypostasis.

    (Of course, why should an Egyptian fragment have any value?)
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    20 Sep '12 01:54
    Originally posted by rwingett
    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/18/fragment-suggests-jesus-was-married/?hpt=hp_c1

    A papyrus fragment has recently been uncovered wherein Jesus refers to his wife. Harvard Divinity School Professor Karen King said, "This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was married." Darrell Bock, a senior research professor of New Testament studies at D ...[text shortened]... pute. This irrevocably changes our whole understanding of what the bible is really saying."
    Are these the same experts who tried to convince us that he was really gay or are you saying they had gay marriage back then? 😛
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    20 Sep '12 01:55
    Originally posted by rwingett
    The article goes on to say that based upon a close examination of the Coptic text, it was unlikely that Jesus had a photographer at his wedding. Karen King says that, "The tradition of having the bride's family pay for the photographer was most likely a later gnostic practice."
    It was probably just a portrait artist at that time. Jesus invented the photography at His resurrection. 😏

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    20 Sep '12 01:55
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Slow down. It has not even been verified as authentic yet.

    Furthermore the Harvard professor who released it said this in no way is difinitive proof that Jesus was married.

    Personally, its very possible IMO that Jesus was married. Also, that he was not.
    It makes no difference to me. Takes nothing away from his message.
    Killjoy. 😠
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    20 Sep '12 02:07
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So god was stoned when he set those laws?
    That is a good one. 😀
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