Originally posted by apathist
The hebrews were chosen. First.
They were chosen to reach the rest of mankind. The Bible does not begin with the calling of Abraham but with the creation of man.
The Hebrews are a stepping stone for God to recover all of the human race.
The battling prophets (jesus vs moe) came later,
There is no battle in that sense between Jesus the Son of God and Moses.
In God's economy Moses was only preparation for the Savior.
The need for grace was established by the ministry of condemnation.
The law of Moses was given to expose the depth of the sickness of the sin nature in fallen man.
and they are a couple of centuries apart in cultural development, but they agree that they hate each other to death, and then hate the jews on the side.
If you means Jesus and Moses hate each other to death that is ludicrous.
if you mean some devoted to Moses hate Christians and some Christians hate Jews, that's a fact.
It doesn't of course mean that I as a follower of Christ have to follow the example of such people.
, and often foremost.
My question is do the jews seek converts?
Some people of their own accord seek to convert to Judaism. And why should it be strange that some Jews encourage them and help them ?
Are they both a religion and a race? They haven't bothered me any. Are they a danger if left alone?
You like religions that don't preach.
They don't expect you to change.
So you prefer a none outreach or none preaching faith.
Is that how you're thinking?
Preachers of the Gospel like myself, on the other hand, you like to chase down the road after them yelling - "Hey, stop trying to proselytize me!"
"But Judaism, they're cool because they don't try to preach to you.
Unlike Christians they don't seek converts.
That's more legitimate. "
Is that kind of how you're thinking ?
Could you comment on God telling Israel that they would be a light to the nations here?
" I am Jehovah [or Yahweh / JHWH] ; I have called You in righteousness; I have held You by the hand; I have kept You and I have given You as a covenant for the people and as a light for the nations.
To open the eyes of the blind, To bring the prisoner out from the prison ..." (Isaiah 42:6,7a)
That's God speaking though the Old Testament prophet Isaiah speaking.
Doesn't it sound like this speaking of Jesus to His disciples ?
" You are the light of the world. It is impossible for a city situated upon a mountain to be hidden. Nor do men light a lamp and place it under a bushel, but on the lampstand; and it shines in the house.
In the same way, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your good works and glorify your Father who is in the heavens." (Matt. 5:15,16)
One central motive of God to provide light to the people of the world seems to have not changed from Judaism to the Christian Gospel (in principle).