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I cannot see this as possibly happening eventhough the universe were 500 billion years old.
Originally posted by dj2beckerBut the problem here is always the idea of a beginning, or creation itself.
I cannot see this as possibly happening eventhough the universe were 500 billion years old.
Originally posted by dj2beckerGenisis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
I cannot see this as possibly happening eventhough the universe were 500 billion years old.
Originally posted by rwingettOK. Let me rephrase: I cannot see life forming from non-life without intelligent intervention.
Genisis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Your own bible says that man was formed from non-living matter. The only thing in dispute is the mechanism by which it happened.
Originally posted by dj2beckeri can.
I cannot see this as possibly happening eventhough the universe were 500 billion years old.
Originally posted by LemonJellolife in the beginning need not be very complex
i can.
if you think of life in terms of humans, and dogs, and whatever else you see around you it may be difficult to imagine. but we are complex because we have evolved.
life in the beginning need not be very complex. depending on how you want to define life, all you need is some quasi-ordered system (at least a system that can resist increasing ...[text shortened]... ch a process would even take that many atoms coming together. then just let evolution commence.
Originally posted by dj2beckerInteresting point.
So basically you believe in something which cannot be proven. Do you agree that this belief is religious in nature?
Originally posted by dj2beckeri know. i'm talking about the point at which life begins. it need not be a very complex system that comes together to form life (however mutually defined) for the first time.
[b]life in the beginning need not be very complex
Uhh, I'm asking how this life in the begining came about from non-life.[/b]
Originally posted by nickybuttSo you don't regard a belief in the unknown as religious in nature?
Interesting point.
I wouldn't call it religious, in nature, because it depends on how you as a human react to such a situation.
A religious person would perhaps look towards God for an explanation, whereas an atheist would search elsewhere.
I think this situation is the main reason why humans have invented the concept of God, to explain the unexplaina ...[text shortened]... orld, so God didn't do it anyway. This way God's field of responibility keeps getting smaller.
Originally posted by LemonJelloHow would you define complex? Would a single simple cell be complex?
i know. and you seem to be under the impression that the act of life forming from atoms of non-living things must necessarily be incredibly complex. i am saying that i don't think it needs to be.