Loss of Faith

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]Now as far as a lack of truth regarding what Christ taught, I have no idea what you are referring to.

Try rereading his posts. Nowhere does he speak of "a lack of truth regarding what Christ taught." It's truly alarming how often you things other than what is there. Perhaps this is because you are firmly entrenched in the "mass delusion" of which he does speak.[/b]

Originally posted by whodey
True, he did not say "Christ", rather, he said "religion". As for that, if religion deviates from the teachings of Chirst then it is Christless. In that case, he should abandon it if it occurs. So if we follow religion over Christ, for me it then turns into a cult of sorts.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
If only you believed what you say. Much of Christianity deviates from the teachings of Jesus. For instance, your position on homosexuals deviates from the teachings of Jesus. Seriously. Stop and think about it. Ask yourself if your position is directly supported by the teachings of Jesus.

Originally posted by whodey
I place homosexual activity in the same category as I would fornicating or adultery, however, for some reason you are preoccupied with it, not I. Having said that, I think we should be able to and MUST declare sin a sin just as Christ showed mercy on the woman caught in adultery. If you notice, after showing mercy on her he admonished her to go and sin no m ...[text shortened]... ed sinning as she had done. What do you suppose Christ would have said about that, if anything?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
You seem to have missed the point of my post.

You had made the following assertion:
"As for that, if religion deviates from the teachings of Chirst then it is Christless."

I asked you to consider the following:
"Ask yourself if your position is directly supported by the teachings of Jesus."

Keep in mind that what I take greatest issue with you ...[text shortened]... inst another race might voice a similar sentiment to someone who points out their bigotry.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
You seem to have missed the point of my post.

You had made the following assertion:
"As for that, if religion deviates from the teachings of Chirst then it is Christless."

I asked you to consider the following:
"Ask yourself if your position is directly supported by the teachings of Jesus."

Keep in mind that what I take greatest issue with you inst another race might voice a similar sentiment to someone who points out their bigotry.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
I wonder if what you ultimately found untenable was the self-centeredness of both conservatism and Christianity.

Originally posted by whodey
As you well know, Christ did not talk about homosexuality, or at least, there is no record of it. Having said that, we must then extrapolate based upon his other teachings. As for his other teachings, he said that he had not come to destroy the Mosaic law, but to fulfill and we both know what the Mosaic law says about homosexuality. Of course, you could ex ...[text shortened]... is sinful? What would Christ have told the woman he showed mercy upon if she continued to sin?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
For one, this is pretty far removed from "direct" isn't it?

For another, what makes you believe that what the Scribes and Pharisees documented as the law was truly the law. If you read Matthew 5 note that right after Jesus states that He came to fulfill the law, He explicitly states that the Scribes and Pharisees did not know of righteousness and then ...[text shortened]... be prepared to ostracize those wearing cotton/poly blends as well amongst many other things.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
the disciple whom Jesus loved

Originally posted by whodey
So you judge ALL conservative and/or Christians to be selfish and self serving exceeding those who are not?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
C'mon whodey. You really like "extrapolating" don't you?

With Wulebgr you extrapolated "what Christ taught" from "religion"

You now extrapolate a comment about "conservatism" and "Christianity" to mean "ALL conservative and / or Christians".

Extrapolating in a reasonable manner doesn't appear to be one of your strong suits.

From what I can t ...[text shortened]... eachings" of Jesus. One can only wonder at how much you manage to muck that up.

Originally posted by whodey
Say what?