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    “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.”
    – Oscar Wilde

    Jesus forgot to make them laugh.

    Discuss.
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    24 Oct '17 03:25
    Originally posted by @whodey
    “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.”
    – Oscar Wilde

    Jesus forgot to make them laugh.

    Discuss.
    Oscar Wilde was a humorist who was referring here both to his own craft and, perhaps more obliquely, to his own legal troubles which included stints in gaol/exile for criminal libel and sodomy, which he may have viewed as existential threats, in a sense. Beyond what he meant by what he said, this epigram doesn't have much traction, and doesn't shed any light on why Jesus was executed or how Jesus should have conducted his ministry. The people who wanted Jesus dead did so, not because they thought he was telling "the truth", but because they saw him as a dangerous, blaspheming imposter and as a seditionist against the Roman Empire. Jesus being a bit of a joker during his lifetime would not have altered any of this.
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    24 Oct '17 04:10
    Originally posted by @whodey
    “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.”
    – Oscar Wilde

    Jesus forgot to make them laugh.

    Discuss.
    Wilde was wrong.
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    24 Oct '17 13:11
    Luke 11:50

    Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world,



    Children say that people are hung sometimes for speaking the truth.


     Joan Of Arc quotes 


    “My plainness of speech makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a
    proof that I am speaking the truth.”
    ― Socrates, Apology


    “Not much time will be gained, O Athenians, in return for the evil name which you will get from the detractors of the city, who will say that you killed Socrates, a wise man; for they will call me wise even although I am not wise when they want to reproach you. If you had waited a little while, your desire would have been fulfilled in the course of nature. For I am far advanced in years, as you may perceive, and not far from death. I am speaking now only to those of you who have condemned me to death. And I have another thing to say to them: You think that I was convicted through deficiency of words - I mean, that if I had thought fit to leave nothing undone, nothing unsaid, I might have gained an acquittal. Not so; the deficiency which led to my conviction was not of words - certainly not. But I had not the boldness or impudence or inclination to address you as you would have liked me to address you, weeping and wailing and lamenting, and saying and doing many things which you have been accustomed to hear from others, and which, as I say, are unworthy of me. But I thought that I ought not to do anything common or mean in the hour of danger: nor do I now repent of the manner of my defence, and I would rather die having spoken after my manner, than speak in your manner and live. For neither in war nor yet at law ought any man to use every way of escaping death. For often in battle there is no doubt that if a man will throw away his arms, and fall on his knees before his pursuers, he may escape death; and in other dangers there are other ways of escaping death, if a man is willing to say and do anything. The difficulty, my friends, is not in avoiding death, but in avoiding unrighteousness; for that runs faster than death. I am old and move slowly, and the slower runner has overtaken me, and my accusers are keen and quick, and the faster runner, who is unrighteousness, has overtaken them. And now I depart hence condemned by you to suffer the penalty of death, and they, too, go their ways condemned by the truth to suffer the penalty of villainy and wrong; and I must abide by my award - let them abide by theirs. I suppose that these things may be regarded as fated, - and I think that they are well.”
    ― Plato, Apology



    The greatest enemy of any one of our truths may be the rest of our truths. ~William James

    The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing,
    and should be treated with caution.
    - J. K. Rowling

    The truth of the matter is that
    you always know the right thing to do.
    The hard part is doing it.
    - Norman Schwarzkoff


    We occasionally stumble over the truth
    but most of us pick ourselves up and
    hurry off as if nothing had happened.
    - Winston Churchill
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    24 Oct '17 13:13
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Luke 11:50

    Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world,



    Children say that people are hung sometimes for speaking the truth.


     Joan Of Arc quotes 


    “My plainness of speech makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a
    proof that I am speaki ...[text shortened]... but most of us pick ourselves up and
    hurry off as if nothing had happened.
    - Winston Churchill
    I don’t think Oscar Wilde's epigram applies to Jesus Christ. Do you agree with me?
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    24 Oct '17 13:58
    Originally posted by @fmf
    I don’t think Oscar Wilde's epigram applies to Jesus Christ. Do you agree with me?
    The comment was not directed at Jesus, but it is still applicable.
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    24 Oct '17 14:06
    Originally posted by @whodey
    The comment was not directed at Jesus, but it is still applicable.
    How? I think it's facetious nonsense to suggest that something a celebrity homosexual said about himself as a 'comedian' somehow applies to Jesus. Explain.
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    31 Oct '17 17:34
    http://www.cracked.com/article_20694_6-filthy-jokes-you-wont-believe-are-from-bible.html
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