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    13 Nov '10 11:131 edit
    Can it be done?

    "My organisation is more moral than yours"... is that a good measure or just opinion? Surely to claim a measure of morality this way the claimant would have to measure morality by opinion of ALL organisations.

    "We boot people out of our organisation who do not hold to our moral standards"... isn't this an acceptance that said organisation is actually less moral, and only maintaining a claimed moral superiority through eviction of weaker individuals?

    And besides, isn't this claim of moral superiority a work of pride, which it has been said - comes before a fall?

    Seek first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness (not mans morality).

    Thoughts...?
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    13 Nov '10 11:58
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Can it be done?

    [b]"My organisation is more moral than yours"
    ... is that a good measure or just opinion? Surely to claim a measure of morality this way the claimant would have to measure morality by opinion of ALL organisations.

    "We boot people out of our organisation who do not hold to our moral standards"... isn't this an acceptance t ...[text shortened]... first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness (not mans morality).

    Thoughts...?[/b]
    Shag a prostitute, and over pay her after the deed. You'll find yourself morally superior. πŸ˜‰
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    13 Nov '10 20:57
    Originally posted by mikelom
    Shag a prostitute, and over pay her after the deed. You'll find yourself morally superior. πŸ˜‰
    πŸ˜•
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    13 Nov '10 21:04
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Can it be done?

    [b]"My organisation is more moral than yours"
    ... is that a good measure or just opinion? Surely to claim a measure of morality this way the claimant would have to measure morality by opinion of ALL organisations.

    "We boot people out of our organisation who do not hold to our moral standards"... isn't this an acceptance t ...[text shortened]... first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness (not mans morality).

    Thoughts...?[/b]
    Who are you to say with your morality and opinion that an organization is not supported by God? Gods morals or mans morals " yours"?
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    13 Nov '10 21:20
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Who are you to say with your morality and opinion that an organization is not supported by God? Gods morals or mans morals " yours"?
    I'm not the one saying it though...am I Galv? The burden of proof does not lie with the observer it lies with the claimant.
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    14 Nov '10 00:59
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I'm not the one saying it though...am I Galv? The burden of proof does not lie with the observer it lies with the claimant.
    No proof I have to show but it's simply as Jesus said.. "by their fruits."
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    14 Nov '10 01:39
    Originally posted by galveston75
    No proof I have to show but it's simply as Jesus said.. "by their fruits."
    Simply said? By who or what? Where? Prove it.
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    14 Nov '10 01:57
    Originally posted by mikelom
    Simply said? By who or what? Where? Prove it.
    By Jesus. In Matt the 24th & 28th chapters we are told to do a teaching work worldwide. Some of the fruits Jesus mentioned were the result of showing ones and teaching them about the "Good News of the Kingdom" Jesus himself taught.
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    14 Nov '10 02:22
    Originally posted by galveston75
    By Jesus. In Matt the 24th & 28th chapters we are told to do a teaching work worldwide. Some of the fruits Jesus mentioned were the result of showing ones and teaching them about the "Good News of the Kingdom" Jesus himself taught.
    You assume immediately that the contents of The Bible are a real entity. The bible was written by hearsay, and by many hundreds of people. Chinese whispers changed the content and reality, as did translation from Hebrew to Islamic to English.

    Do you believe, word for word, that in the Bible (pending which version you read) that Matthew really said what he said? I mean, you quote the bible, but which one? They vary with content, so doesn't that worry you? Inconsistency is a good reason to doubt. If your neighbour said his house smelled because of bad dogs maybe you would say, "Aha! I was wondering about that wreak." Yet 3 weeks later, if he was arrested with a dead body in his home, wouldn't you believe the police, and accept that your first initial thoguhts were correct?

    The Pharisees maybe created the bible? Isn't that possible? After all, they were taxmen. Maybe they created a hoax, to cause blunders and fear, and reap the financial benefits of their book.

    There is no evidence at all for the contents of the bible, where it was written and by whom. So carry on believing the man next door. πŸ˜‰
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    14 Nov '10 02:32
    Originally posted by mikelom
    You assume immediately that the contents of The Bible are a real entity. The bible was written by hearsay, and by many hundreds of people. Chinese whispers changed the content and reality, as did translation from Hebrew to Islamic to English.

    Do you believe, word for word, that in the Bible (pending which version you read) that Matthew really said what h ...[text shortened]... of the bible, where it was written and by whom. So carry on believing the man next door. πŸ˜‰
    As I see you do not believe in the Bible then that leaves very little common ground to speak on.
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    14 Nov '10 23:16
    Originally posted by mikelom
    You assume immediately that the contents of The Bible are a real entity. The bible was written by hearsay, and by many hundreds of people. Chinese whispers changed the content and reality, as did translation from Hebrew to Islamic to English.

    Do you believe, word for word, that in the Bible (pending which version you read) that Matthew really said what h ...[text shortened]... of the bible, where it was written and by whom. So carry on believing the man next door. πŸ˜‰
    umm i dont seem to see any evidence that the bible is uninspired, is it simply hearsay that you dismiss its inspiration, how ironic to say the least!
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    14 Nov '10 23:22
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Can it be done?

    [b]"My organisation is more moral than yours"
    ... is that a good measure or just opinion? Surely to claim a measure of morality this way the claimant would have to measure morality by opinion of ALL organisations.

    "We boot people out of our organisation who do not hold to our moral standards"... isn't this an acceptance t ...[text shortened]... first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness (not mans morality).

    Thoughts...?[/b]
    I think its very apparent that I am the most morally superior being here😏
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    14 Nov '10 23:37
    Originally posted by duecer
    I think its very apparent that I am the most morally superior being here😏
    if thats the case then i am practically an angel!
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    14 Nov '10 23:41
    Originally posted by duecer
    I think its very apparent that I am the most morally superior being here😏
    I think its very apparent that I am the most morally superior being here😏
    ok perhaps the most morally superior being ........................................^
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    there

    but what about here? -->

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    15 Nov '10 00:14
    Originally posted by duecer
    I think its very apparent that I am the most morally superior being here😏
    Lol.....
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