Spirituality
19 Feb 06
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by frogstompIt would help if it were seen in context.
what do you Christians think of this from the Koran :
"[17.111] And say: (All) praise is due to Allah, Who has not taken a son and Who has not a partner in the kingdom, and Who has not a helper to save Him from disgrace; and proclaim His greatness magnifying (Him).'
Have fun guys
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by frogstompI think it is from the Qu'ran. I think it contradicts the Bible, on more than one level. I think any work which knowingly contradicts the Bible puts its author and perpetuators in danger of hell fire (depending on their spiritual status, of course).
what do you Christians think of this from the Koran :
"[17.111] And say: (All) praise is due to Allah, Who has not taken a son and Who has not a partner in the kingdom, and Who has not a helper to save Him from disgrace; and proclaim His greatness magnifying (Him).'
Have fun guys
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHOr eternal salvation - if, of course, they, and not the bible, are correct. (I love commas!)
I think it is from the Qu'ran. I think it contradicts the Bible, on more than one level. I think any work which knowingly contradicts the Bible puts its author and perpetuators in danger of hell fire (depending on their spiritual status, of course).
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by HalitoseContext?
It would help if it were seen in context.
how's this for context:
"[17.110] Say: Call upon Allah or call upon, the Beneficent God; whichever you call upon, He has the best names; and do not utter your prayer with a very raised voice nor be silent with regard to it, and seek a way between these."
note the numbering
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by frogstompNice to see you active here again, froggy!
Context?
how's this for context:
"[17.110] Say: Call upon Allah or call upon, the Beneficent God; whichever you call upon, He has the best names; and do not utter your prayer with a very raised voice nor be silent with regard to it, and seek a way between these."
note the numbering
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHOriginally posted by frogstomp
I think it is from the Qu'ran.
what do you Christians think of this from the Koran :
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The verse in question is one of many in the Qu'ran (Koran) that extolls the glory of Allah, and while doing so criticizes the false doctrines of Christianity because they perceive Allah (the Creator) in the image of man. In other places of the Qu'ran, Christians and Jews are complimented as people of the book, and their revelations (Scriptures) are recognized as containing truths, but partial, incomplete, and ultimately in error.
19 Feb 06
You see, the Quran is not there to be chopped and quoted as you feel like
doing. Its not a pick and choose contest, highlight certain verses and leave
all the others in the darkness.
You cannot simply select a random verse and expect a straight answer.
There is wisdom to be learnt in these verses but you need to understand
the grounds these sentences were built on. The foundations. Only then
you'll appreciate the true meaning of the verses you quoted above.
If you have a specific question, then please let me hear it, I'll do my
best, as a Muslim, to answer it.
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by frogstompI think it's someone else's religion and their holy book can say whatever they want it to say. My holy book says nasty things about witches (including not allowing them to live) but I don't think any Wiccans are losing any sleep because of it.
what do you Christians think of this from the Koran :
"[17.111] And say: (All) praise is due to Allah, Who has not taken a son and Who has not a partner in the kingdom, and Who has not a helper to save Him from disgrace; and proclaim His greatness magnifying (Him).'
Have fun guys
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by PeachyI'm relieved to see there are still sane people in this world.
You see, the Quran is not there to be chopped and quoted as you feel like
doing. Its not a pick and choose contest, highlight certain verses and leave
all the others in the darkness.
You cannot simply select a random verse and expect a straight answer.
There is wisdom to be learnt in these verses but you need to understand
the grounds these sentenc ...[text shortened]... a specific question, then please let me hear it, I'll do my
best, as a Muslim, to answer it.
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by reader1107As long as you're not actually thinking of doing what your book says I'm fine with it.
I think it's someone else's religion and their holy book can say whatever they want it to say. My holy book says nasty things about witches (including not allowing them to live) but I don't think any Wiccans are losing any sleep because of it.
Sadly, many unintelligent people stop thinking and simply act on every word of such a book. THOSE are the people that should be sent to hell.
19 Feb 06
Originally posted by TheMaster37I think it is unlikely that any person is deserving of hell (ie., eternal torment).
As long as you're not actually thinking of doing what your book says I'm fine with it.
Sadly, many unintelligent people stop thinking and simply act on every word of such a book. THOSE are the people that should be sent to hell.
21 Feb 06
Originally posted by vistesdThank you, my friend.
Nice to see you active here again, froggy!
I have come to the conclusion that only a gauge field god could possibly exist.'Tis a pity that each "prophet's" sayings are used to start a reliigion and religious dogma are not helpful in expanding our field-receptors beyond that of the "prophet".
Peace be with you.
21 Feb 06
Originally posted by frogstompI remember asking you about gauge fields, and you said that electro-magnetism was one. Now, I think I agree with you, if say, we’re talking the Tao...
Thank you, my friend.
I have come to the conclusion that only a gauge field god could possibly exist.'Tis a pity that each "prophet's" sayings are used to start a reliigion and religious dogma are not helpful in expanding our field-receptors beyond that of the "prophet".
Peace be with you.