Obey God and live forever or disobey God and die

@fmf said
They are simply rewarded for striving to be loving and good not for being flawless. There is nothing about the God of the OP creating a standard of performance a flawed being was unable to attain.

That's not what it says in the OP.

"Obey Him and you will have everlasting life." It's a performance based system. If one obeys, then they are rewarded with everlasting life.

The problem is, if they were not flawed they wouldn't need to be commanded to obey, and since they are flawed they cannot rightly obey.

They're doomed. The God of the OP is immoral for creating flawed beings unable to obey, and then requiring obedience for everlasting life.

What a horrible God.

@fmf said
The God of the OP isn't forcing anyone to do its bidding.

No, he's just dangling a carrot in their faces, and making it impossible to grasp. That's the epitome of immoral.

@secondson said
No, he's just dangling a carrot in their faces, and making it impossible to grasp. That's the epitome of immoral.

No, he isn't asking for something "impossible".

@secondson said
That's not what it says in the OP.

"Obey Him and you will have everlasting life." It's a performance based system. If one obeys, then they are rewarded with everlasting life.

Obeying him means "striving to be loving and good".

@secondson said
The problem is, if they were not flawed they wouldn't need to be commanded to obey, and since they are flawed they cannot rightly obey.

If they are unable to strive to be loving and good then when they die they die.

@secondson said
The God of the OP is immoral for creating flawed beings unable to obey, and then requiring obedience for everlasting life.

The God of the OP has not created beings unable to strive to be loving and good.

@secondson said
What a horrible God.

Everyone eventually dies. That is the default-setting fact of life. This finite lifetime is all you've got. And yet, with the God of the OP, there is a chance of everlasting life: if one strives to be loving and good. If one strives to love their neighbours as themselves. If one strives not to deceive, damage or coerce. And so on and so forth. What's "horrible" about that?

@fmf said
The God of the OP has not created beings unable to strive to be loving and good.

You can strive all you want to under your own power.

Funny how we always come up short.

It's as if we don't have unlimited power to do so at all times.

Crazy.

@FMF

Thing is though, is that the real God is immutable, but you keep changing the rules to accommodate the God of the OP. You keep modifying the game plan laid out in the OP.

How could one obey such a fickle God? 🙃

@whodey said
You can strive all you want to under your own power.

Funny how we always come up short.

It's as if we don't have unlimited power to do so at all times.

Crazy.

What does this have to do with this thread?

@secondson said
You keep modifying the game plan laid out in the OP.

No, I am not. I am simply explaining the OP thought exercise to you. Remember, it was you who admitted about yourself: "I'm a little bit dense sometimes. You should have prefaced the OP indicating it was a hypothetical God/religion."

@secondson said
How could one obey such a fickle God?

There is nothing "fickle" about the God of the OP.

@secondson said
you keep changing the rules to accommodate the God of the OP.

I am not changing the rules. I am simply explaining the thread topic to you.

@fmf said
The God of the OP isn't forcing anyone to do its bidding.

I'm not sure about that.

The God of the OP is essentially giving people the death penalty for refusing to obey it. That sounds like coercion to me.

@bigdoggproblem said
I'm not sure about that.

The God of the OP is essentially giving people the death penalty for refusing to obey it. That sounds like coercion to me.

Life is finite. People die of old age.