Oh that crazy Ezikiel

Originally posted by sonship
How about you answer my first question first then I'll answer yours?
Do you want stick with a position that God is a "softie" and abandon the more popular criticism of new atheists that He is too mean ?

God: I command you to cook with human poo.
Man: That's a bit harsh.
God: OK. I'll let you use cow dung.

If you cannot see the comedy in that and why I would jokingly
say God is a big softie then:

You're not that smart are you?

Incidently; saying god is soft in one passage of the book does not prevent me
from saying he is an evil tyrant in another passage. The bible is full of
contradictions.

Originally posted by Suzianne
One can hardly compare Deuteronomy and Leviticus to Christianity.

If I understand you correctly, you are asserting that the Old Testament is not applicable to Christians?

While this is a convenient assertion, it is not, in practice, a valid one. I have been to hundreds of sermons and religious gatherings were the Old Testament built the foundation for the moral, ethical or spiritual lesson being conveyed.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
God: I command you to cook with human poo.
Man: That's a bit harsh.
God: OK. I'll let you use cow dung.

If you cannot see the comedy in that and why I would jokingly
say God is a big softie then:

[b]You're not that smart are you?

Incidently; saying god is soft in one passage of the book does not prevent me
from saying he is an evil tyrant in another passage. The bible is full of
contradictions.[/b]

God: I command you to cook with human poo.
Man: That's a bit harsh.
God: OK. I'll let you use cow dung.

If you cannot see the comedy in that and why I would jokingly
say God is a big softie then:

The first time I read the passage the irony of the matter struck me also.
I may have had chuckle inside.
I see this point you make.

There are other ironic passages in the bible.

You're not that smart are you?

Wasting this much time with you on this one point, was not that smart.
It would have been smarter to just ignore your little rather juvenile whimsy.

The one good thing that came out of it was reading the comments of the commentary by Matthew Henry on the passage. That was a much smarter use of my time.

Incidently; saying god is soft in one passage of the book does not prevent me
from saying he is an evil tyrant in another passage. The bible is full of
contradictions.

I don't think varied sides of God reveal contradictions. Its not terribly smart to realize a many faceted view of such a eternal and all-inclusive Life would be just what one should expect.

Probably any "contraditions" you submitted to me could be shown not to be contradictory at all. They are probably snapshots of the same Divine Being from varied angles.

You're welcome to try me out if you think you have some really illogical contradictions.

Ie. "Behold the kindness and severity of God ..." writes the Apostle Paul. This is not a contradiction. He is kind and also can be severe. I'm sure you could say similar things concerning your own earthly father.

Ie. He had varied aspects to his total personality which were complimentary. They were not really contradictions.

I might be able to think of some rather tough paradoxes which believe I will reconcile with greater spiritual maturity. I don't think you can boast of a lot of contradictions found with God.

Give me your three strongest examples.

Originally posted by sonship
I don't think varied sides of God reveal contradictions. Its not terribly smart to realize a many faceted view of such a eternal and all-inclusive Life would be just what one should expect.

you were the one that told me not call god mean and nasty after
calling him soft. You explicitly said I couldn't have it both ways. Now you say
he is multi-faceted! You are as contrary as your god. He certainly was made in
man's image wasn't he?

Originally posted by sonship

This god of yours is a big softie.

Now if that's the position you want to take, don't turn around latter and quote
people like Richard Dawkins on sadistic, dictator, tyrant, blankity-blank deity.
Are you sure you want to stick to the "softie" criticism ? You may be tempted
to change to the "meanie" criticism when the discussion is Noah, Sodom and
Gamorrah, or the Canaanites.

Just in case you forgot what you said.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
[b]you were the one that told me not call god mean and nasty after
calling him soft. You explicitly said I couldn't have it both ways. Now you say
he is multi-faceted! You are as contrary as your god. He certainly was made in
man's image wasn't he?[/b]

Three strongest contradictions with God in the Bible:

What would you put out as examples ?

Originally posted by sonship
Three strongest contradictions with God in the Bible:

What would you put out as examples ?

I really cannot be bothered.
The thread is about how crazy EasyKiel was.

You dont believe god acting contrary is a contradiction, you dont think
your god should be consistent and call it different facets, you are the
expert so find your own contradictions.

But there is a nice pictorial representation here:
http://www.project-reason.org/gallery3/image/105/

Originally posted by wolfgang59
I really cannot be bothered.
The thread is about how crazy EasyKiel was.

You dont believe god acting contrary is a contradiction, you dont think
your god should be consistent and call it different facets, you are the
expert so find your own contradictions.

But there is a nice pictorial representation here:
http://www.project-reason.org/gallery3/image/105/

I really cannot be bothered with someone not willing to learn the truth. So I shall leave you with your stubbornness and your own counsels, just as God did to the stubborn people of israel.

So I gave them over to their own stubborn heart,
To walk in their own counsels.
(Psalms 81:12 NKJV)

Originally posted by RJHinds

[b]So I gave them over to their own stubborn heart,
To walk in their own counsels.
(Psalms 81:12 NKJV)[/b]

Ouch.

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
If I understand you correctly, you are asserting that the Old Testament is not applicable to Christians?

While this is a convenient assertion, it is not, in practice, a valid one. I have been to hundreds of sermons and religious gatherings were the Old Testament built the foundation for the moral, ethical or spiritual lesson being conveyed.

No. I said Deuteronomy and Leviticus (also, a bit of Exodus and Numbers), where Moses lays out God's law to the Hebrews. These are known as the Mosaic laws, and they have never applied to Christians, especially gentiles.