Originally posted by RJHindsThere are 3 things in this poem I have absolutely no idea what they mean.
To twhitehead:
Yes, somebody gave me the idea; but it
still makes sense to me.
The theory of evolution in particular, in its
concept, presents the ideas in a way that
implies that God had nothing to due with
creation. Like I said, it is truth mixed with a
lie.
No, I don't think you are Satan. I know you
are just another person like me. But Sa ...[text shortened]... dy th Holy Bible.
You will need help to make sure you understand it
correctly.
RJHinds
Can you please explain; God, Satan and Bible.
Other than those words it wasn't a bad idea, even if it was effed up.
-m.
Originally posted by RJHindsRight, the next concept to grasp is the role of genes.
To Proper Knob:
Very good.
RJHinds
Genes are subunits of DNA, which carry out a particular function in the organism. As i explained earlier DNA is the set of 'instructions' for a gene. So a gene has it's own set of instructions (DNA), and those instructions tell the gene what it's role is in making the organism.
The genes instructions could be something as simple as eye colour, blood type, or it could be the instructions as to how many limbs the organism should have. Every biological trait in you and me has been 'directed' by genes using our DNA code.
Still with me? We're getting to the sexy stuff soon.
Originally posted by RJHindsRight, back to what happens when a sperm fertilises an egg. As i explained earlier, the information is shared 50-50 between the egg and the sperm. 50% comes from the male and 50% from the female.
To Proper Knob:
Okay.
RJHinds
When fertilisation occurs, we'll choose us as an example, the 23 chromosones from the sperm match up with the 23 chromosones in the egg (it would be 39 in a dog) and the DNA has to be paired up. What happens though is that this process isn't 100% accurate, coding errors occur.
In laymens terms, the 'instructions' get muddled up, these are called 'mutations'. Organisms have mechanisms that go round and correct these mistakes, but they are not 100% efficient.
These mistakes in the coding, or 'instructions', are called mutations and this is the raw material with which evolution occurs.
Make sense? More on Sunday, i'm busy tomorrow.
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Originally posted by black beetleAh! Vajra Sattva!
It seems to me you have not understand towards what exactly our Taoman said he is open to, so I will give it one more try😵
Emptiness can be known by a thought: if a present thought is absent, nothing at all can be known; if your thought “Jesus” is not present, Jesus cannot be known. In analogy, all knowledge is just a by-product of thought awareness ...[text shortened]... hey never encompass the Whole (from which our Taoman does not want to be separated, that is)
😵
None are ever separated.
And the good Jesus, as with all the Buddhas, and all concepts of such ones, neither exist nor do they not exist, as all Forms are "empty".
Compassion (and its Christian equivalent of the "Grace of God" ) are the highest Wisdom, yet as concepts are also "empty" or absent.
They wonderfully appear and cannot be finally defined, as Mind cannot be.
Let us not seek for this emptiness for one can never find it.
The more one seeks, the more the chains of the world of duality tighten.
Any seeking to destroy it is futile, as it is empty, it cannot be destroyed.
Can one destroy space (its closest simile) or change an iota of it?
It is the Unborn and therefore can never die.
Our mind-born moralities and immoralities are swallowed up in this Emptiness.
Thus let us not seek by our moral strivings (as good as they are) to ensure its arising before our very eyes, any more than one can ensure it cannot arise for the most horrible person.
Yet strangely being relaxed and open to this absence, the All Good arises as we respond spontaneously without fettering thoughts, for Compassion-Wisdom is its very Nature.
Such words only point, for it remains undefined and spontaneous, empty in every moment. What in mind-born concepts is foolishness and wrong may well be, in that moment of now, the deepest Compassion and Wisdom. But nothing needs be assured. Let us be simply open.
Every now is alive and empty and none ever the same. How marvellous!
Let us simply be open unto this Emptiness, and do nothing else for nothing one does, thinks or says will grab it. How can one grasp oneself? How can one grasp Mind?
Names heap upon Names for those that recognise.
And some innately recognise without formal recognition,
irreligious and mundane in their every way.
And whether one recognises or not, it makes not an iota of difference.
All is complete in every now. And our Aha! echoes through the empty Universe
Ah! How marvelous!
Even if this whole world blows up in multiple cataclysms, that itself will be the All Good as much as any heaven. Do we not see this?
Ah! Vajra Sattva! Ah! Samantabahdra!
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* "Vajra Sattva" > Unchangeable, indestructible Being.
* "Samantabahdra" > All Good, All Complete. Perfect by being Complete, Complete by fulfilling and harmonising all the opposites arising in empty appearance.
To Taoman:
I thought you had left this thread, haven't heard from
you in awhile. I must warn you to be very careful
of this trancendental mysticism. It could swallow you
up and Satan will take over. I suggest you seek
salvation through the only savior given by God to
mankind, that is Jesus (Yashua) the Christ (messiah).
With Love,
RJHinds
Originally posted by TaomanNamaste😵
Ah! Vajra Sattva!
None are ever separated.
And the good Jesus, as with all the Buddhas, and all concepts of such ones, neither exist nor do they not exist, as all Forms are "empty".
Compassion (and its Christian equivalent of the "Grace of God" ) are the highest Wisdom, yet as concepts are also "empty" or absent.
They wonderfully appear and cannot ...[text shortened]... Complete by fulfilling and harmonising all the opposites arising in empty appearance.
To Proper Knob:
On Answers.com there is a list of words related to
Genetics, Heredity, and Evolution taken from
Random House Word Menu:
abiogenesis - discredited theory that living organism can develop by
spontaneous generation from inanimate material.
adaptation - any feature that increases fitness of organism to its
environment: process of developing or altering these
features by natural selection.
biogenesis - principle that living organisms originate from other living
organisms similar to themselves.
evolution - development of species or organism from primitive state
to present or specialized state.
If you accept the above definitions, then I really can't disagree.
As a Christian, I see no problem in these definitions.
Going back to the article on evolution from the Encyclopedia
International. Instead of biogenesis he call this discredited
theory, the theory of spontaneous generation. That apparently,
is why there was no mention of biogenesis in his article.
RJHinds
Originally posted by RJHindsThank you for your concern, RJ.
To Taoman:
I thought you had left this thread, haven't heard from
you in awhile. I must warn you to be very careful
of this trancendental mysticism. It could swallow you
up and Satan will take over. I suggest you seek
salvation through the only savior given by God to
mankind, that is Jesus (Yashua) the Christ (messiah).
With Love,
RJHinds
The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.
Originally posted by TaomanWithin him?
Thank you for your concern, RJ.
The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.
Ooops, I thought the kingdom of heaven was in the sky with a big white bearded man waiting to accept me.
Thank myself I rejected my indoctrination of such thoughts.
I shall look further into heaven being withing a person, as Buddhism points out.
-m. 😉
Originally posted by RJHinds“....Well, that would be the
To Andrew Hamilton:
You defined the kind of nature you were talking
about as all that exists physically and which is
not man-made and also excluding any so-called
“supernatural” thing. Well, that would be the
creations of God. Like I said without the creations
of God there is no "nature". The supernatural
thing that was excluded is "God".
RJHinds
creations of God. ...”
how do you know this? You (and everyone else) have yet to give me any explanation of why a god must exist or probably exists let alone that a god created nature.
And why must it be just one “God” rather than lots of gods? If you don't think it is absurd that there exists one “God” then is there any reason to think that it would be significantly more absurd that there are many gods?
“...Like I said without the creations
of God there is no "nature". ...”
how so? I have already given the reason why it would be unsurprising that nature exists with or without a “God” -there is no reason to believe that nature itself was “created”.