1. Standard memberRBHILL
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    21 Apr '05 21:13
    Paul was a murder or had Christians murdered before Jesus came to him. So therfore we know that anyone even murderers can be saved.


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    Matthew 25 talks about the Judgement right?

    And that is way you need Jesus to save you from that Jugdement because no one will pass it. Everyone is sinful. Accept Jesus to save you from yourself (sinful/prideful nature).
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    21 Apr '05 21:16
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Paul was a murder or had Christians murdered before Jesus came to him. So therfore we know that anyone even murderers can be saved.


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    Matthew 25 talks about the Judgement right?

    And that is way you need Jesus to save you from that Jugdement because no one will pass it. Everyone is sinful. Accept Jesus to save you from yourself (sinful/prideful nature).
    Funny, it doesn't say that in Matthew 25, it says we'll be judged on how we treated our fellow man. Maybe you should try reading it, RBHILL.
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    21 Apr '05 21:19
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Paul was a murder or had Christians murdered before Jesus came to him. So therfore we know that anyone even murderers can be saved.


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    Matthew 25 talks about the Judgement right?

    And that is way you need Jesus to save you from that Jugdement because no one will pass it. Everyone is sinful. Accept Jesus to save you from yourself (sinful/prideful nature).
    Which religion do you support? I don't recognise this one. Is it a wierdo cult/
  4. Standard memberRBHILL
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    21 Apr '05 21:22
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Funny, it doesn't say that in Matthew 25, it says we'll be judged on how we treated our fellow man. Maybe you should try reading it, RBHILL.
    Don't you see that we have all sinned and fallen short of God's Glory and non of use has treated people in a Godly way unless we have been saved and it is God's Holy Spirit working in use. And that is way Jesus came to save you.

    An Atheist if he helps people his hole life in a good way by human standards and by what it says in 25 he will not go to heaven, because he had to much Pride in not believing in God.
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    21 Apr '05 21:28
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Don't you see that we have all sinned and fallen short of God's Glory and non of use has treated people in a Godly way unless we have been saved and it is God's Holy Spirit working in use. And that is way Jesus came to save you.

    An Atheist if he helps people his hole life in a good way by human standards and by what it says in 25 he will not go to heaven, because he had to much Pride in not believing in God.
    Why do you cite Matthew 25 and then say the EXACT OPPOSITE of what it says? Please cite a reference in Matthew 25 where it says "Atheists won't go to heaven".
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    21 Apr '05 21:31
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Why do you cite Matthew 25 and then say the EXACT OPPOSITE of what it says? Please cite a reference in Matthew 25 where it says "Atheists won't go to heaven".
    All have sinned and fallen Short of Gods glory.

    Romans 3:23; John 3:36

    An atheist can go to heaven if they accept Jesus as their savoir and turn from their wiked ways.

    Revelation 3:20

    Jesus stands at the Door of your heart will you let him in?
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    21 Apr '05 21:38
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    All have sinned and fallen Short of Gods glory.

    Romans 3:23; John 3:36

    An atheist can go to heaven if they accept Jesus as their savoir and turn from their wiked ways.

    Revelation 3:20

    Jesus stands at the Door of your heart will you let him in?
    Please cite a reference from Matthew 25 saying an "Atheist can't go to Heaven" RBHILL or stop claiming that it says such a thing.
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    yeah Read it RB. Matthew 25. My Bible breaks it down into
    The ten virgins 25 1-13 The talents 25 14-30 & lastly the judgment of the Gentiles 25 31-46 I like the part in 25 37-40 they were not even consious of their goodness.
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    22 Apr '05 07:441 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Don't you see that we have all sinned and fallen short of God's Glory and non of use has treated people in a Godly way unless we have been saved and it is God's Holy Spirit working in use. And that is way Jesus came to save you.

    An At ...[text shortened]... o to heaven, because he had to much Pride in not believing in God.
    Paul showed far more pride than any atheist ever did: he and not they tried to correct Christ on salvation , that is after he gave up sending Christians to theirs.
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    22 Apr '05 07:51
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    Paul showed far more pride than any atheist ever did: he and not they tried to correct Christ on salvation , that is after he gave up sending Christians to theirs.
    Jesus said plenty of times He was the only way. Let's not pretend He didn't. A good quote from C.S. Lewis was about seeking truth instead of comfort. Perhaps you should take that to heart, frog.
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    22 Apr '05 08:011 edit
    Originally posted by Darfius
    Jesus said plenty of times He was the only way. Let's not pretend He didn't. A good quote from C.S. Lewis was about seeking truth instead of comfort. Perhaps you should take that to heart, frog.
    If you and RBHILL want to claim that Jesus' description of Judgment Day in Matthew 25:31-46 is wrong or incomplete, do so. But RBHILL shouldn't be claiming it supports a belief that the text explicitly rejects. Perhaps you should take Jesus' words to heart, Darfius, not the words of C.S. Lewis'.
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    22 Apr '05 08:02
    Originally posted by Darfius
    Jesus said plenty of times He was the only way. Let's not pretend He didn't. A good quote from C.S. Lewis was about seeking truth instead of comfort. Perhaps you should take that to heart, frog.
    perhaps you should listen more to what He said what His way was. I'll give you a clue it's in His words not Pauls.

    If you can't understand that Christ's own words take precedence over Paul's or anybody's elses, maybe you shouldn't be calling yourself a Christian.

    Perhaps you are a CSLewisian or a Pauline, darf
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    22 Apr '05 08:05
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    If you and RBHILL want to claim that Jesus' description of Judgment Day in Matthew 25:31-46 is wrong or incomplete, do so. But RBHILL shouldn't be claiming it supports a belief that the text explicitly rejects. Perhaps you should take Jesus' words to heart, Darfius, not the words of C.S. Lewis'.
    darn it they is back ,, da Rapture aint begun yet 🙁
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