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    [youtube]rwKkkupUgEI[/yutube]

    Secular morality is robust. To be fair I think many christians know this. But here's a caller who doesn't.
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    07 Aug '17 15:34
    Originally posted by @apathist
    [youtube]rwKkkupUgEI[/yutube]

    Secular morality is robust. To be fair I think many christians know this. But here's a caller who doesn't.
    Fascinating.
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    07 Aug '17 15:35
    Originally posted by @apathist
    [youtube]rwKkkupUgEI[/yutube]

    Secular morality is robust. To be fair I think many christians know this. But here's a caller who doesn't.
    ]rwKkkupUgEI

    Moral values are written on the human heart. Even though we live in a fallen world people can still do good even though we fall short every day.
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    08 Aug '17 00:501 edit
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    Fixed the tag.

    I like the approach of finding a subjective claim about the nature of morality that christians could agree with, and then based on that agreement, claims about situational morality can then be considered objective.
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    08 Aug '17 02:30
    Originally posted by @apathist
    [youtube]rwKkkupUgEI[/youtube]

    Fixed the tag.

    I like the approach of finding a subjective claim about the nature of morality that christians could agree with, and then based on that agreement, claims about situational morality can then be considered objective.
    The head-down-ears-back droning caller reminds me of Fetchmyjunk/dj2becker
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    08 Aug '17 07:08
    Originally posted by @rbhill
    Moral values are written on the human heart.
    So we don't need moral instruction from the gods. On the contrary, we pass judgement on them. We decide right from wrong. You do this in your next sentence.

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    (Meanwhile, according to the book you must refer to when you answer my next question, your god killed all the babies in the world in a fit of anger. (Except for the baby fish.) And his anger was because his omniscient omnipotent omnibenevolent self didn't like his own work!)


    Even though we live in a fallen world people can still do good even though we fall short every day.
    No one is perfect, of course. But what reason to think the world has 'fallen'?
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    08 Aug '17 07:141 edit
    Originally posted by @fmf
    The head-down-ears-back droning caller reminds me of Fetchmyjunk/dj2becker
    I went and had a listen after initially dismissing the link.
    Quite an amusing and accurate parallel.
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    It is amusing and accurate, if you like to see christians displaying their ignorance and lack of reason.
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