Satanism

Originally posted by divegeester
Sounds like a few atheits I know actually

You've never heard of a believer displaying such "care only for your own
and damn the rest"-behaviour?

Originally posted by Jigtie
You've never heard of a believer displaying such "care only for your own
and damn the rest"-behaviour?

Of course. Tongue was firmly in cheek..😉

Originally posted by kirksey957
I have befriended a few snake handlers. It's not my thing, but I'm interested in learning what makes them tick. This spring I am going out with some to help them collect the snakes.

If you think about it, Satanists are snake handlers too, only they will inevitably get bit!!

Originally posted by kirksey957
They can't be any more bizarre than this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMP-CQ_bvSM&feature=PlayList&p=61B4616FBAEC4296&playnext=1&index=51

It would have been great if that guy in the red pants had vomited.

Were those rattlers? Amazing how they danced with those snakes!

Bizarre is right.

Originally posted by josephw
It would have been great if that guy in the red pants had vomited.

Were those rattlers? Amazing how they danced with those snakes!

Bizarre is right.

Now, now lets not be too judgemental. After all, you'd be danc'in too if you had rattlers at your ankles!! 😛

Originally posted by divegeester
Of course. Tongue was firmly in cheek..😉

🙂

I think I'm slowly starting to get you.

Originally posted by divegeester
Not me. You should go to different night spots, or are you writting a book on "weirdo cultists" and are lacking the final chapter on Luciferians?

Assuming your question is serious:

They have a lot of web presence and history. They are real but with lots of factions so I understand. Their are lots of pseudo satanists such as witches etc who don ...[text shortened]... is too late to extricate themselves without contravening the oaths and curses they have made.

Wiccans, what most christians refer to as witches, do not worship Satan. Satan is your boogeyman, you deal with him. And if there was a Satan, he'd pretty much be out of a job. More blood has been spilt in the name of God, then for any other reason I can think of. Can't recall ever hearing about a war being fought against the spread of Satanism. Unless you consider the inquisition, that was christians at their best, wasn't it?

Onward christian soldiers, marching as to war.....

Originally posted by Ray Gunz I
Wiccans, what most christians refer to as witches, do not worship Satan. Satan is your boogeyman, you deal with him. And if there was a Satan, he'd pretty much be out of a job. More blood has been spilt in the name of God, then for any other reason I can think of. Can't recall ever hearing about a war being fought against the spread of Satanism. Unless y ...[text shortened]... as christians at their best, wasn't it?

Onward christian soldiers, marching as to war.....

actually it seems that the worlds worst atrocities were nor perpetrated by Christians at all as you erroneously assume, but by the hand of socialists and communists, and please note these were not fought on a religious basis, but the direct adoption of anti religious teachings in the form of evolutionary theory applied in a social sense, please do your research before posting

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/atrox.htm

and please note, i do not accept that those who perpetrate war are Christians, for this is diametrically opposite to what Christ taught, so don't even try, they are nominal Christians, nothing more!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
actually it seems that the worlds worst atrocities were nor perpetrated by Christians at all as you erroneously assume, but by the hand of socialists and communists, and please note these were not fought on a religious basis, but the direct adoption of anti religious teachings in the form of evolutionary theory applied in a social sense, please do yo ...[text shortened]... y opposite to what Christ taught, so don't even try, they are nominal Christians, nothing more!

What were the Crusades? A game of domino's? Man has been killing each other over what God to pray to since the beginning of time. That is a fact! Weather it be christians killing muslims, muslims killing jews, whatever the flavor of the day is, it's still a fact.

Originally posted by Ray Gunz I
What were the Crusades? A game of domino's? Man has been killing each other over what God to pray to since the beginning of time. That is a fact! Weather it be christians killing muslims, muslims killing jews, whatever the flavor of the day is, it's still a fact.

where are the crusades on the graph, nowhere for they pall into insignificance when compared to atrocities committed much more recently, by communists, socialists and other non Christians and as i have already stated, but it seems that i must do so again, those who take up arms and perpetrate war are not Christians, i do not care what anyone says, they are not Christians for they do not follow the teachings of Christ, they are in name only, nothing more, and as for Islam and Judaism, this carries the idea of Jihad, this is not a Christian ethos!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
where are the crusades on the graph, nowhere for they pall into insignificance when compared to atrocities committed much more recently, by communists, socialists and other non Christians and as i have already stated, but it seems that i must do so again, those who take up arms and perpetrate war are not Christians, i do not care what anyone says, th ...[text shortened]... re, and as for Islam and Judaism, this carries the idea of Jihad, this is not a Christian ethos!

Let me see wasn't it a Pope who set of the 1st crusades? You'll excuse me if I don't have all the facts and figures 100% correct. And the inquisition, the guys doing the surpervising of torture, (Mustn't get our hands dirty now.) who were they? Oh, I know, I know, the devil made them do it. And I also seem to remember a certain, what was his name again, oh yeah, JP II finally having the nuts to apologize for the catholic church turning a blind eye to the plight of the jews during the holocaust. Guess that makes it all OK, huh? Your argument that anyone that declares war isn't a true christian, is kinda weak. Kinda a cop out, if you ask me. Thou shalt not kill? Ha! And don't get me wrong. I'm not just picking on christians, all major religions are just as bad. Saying that, oh well but these don't compare to what the socialists or the communists did, is a pretty poor excuse, if you ask me. But then what do I know, right?

Originally posted by Ray Gunz I
Let me see wasn't it a Pope who set of the 1st crusades? You'll excuse me if I don't have all the facts and figures 100% correct. And the inquisition, the guys doing the surpervising of torture, (Mustn't get our hands dirty now.) who were they? Oh, I know, I know, the devil made them do it. And I also seem to remember a certain, what was his name again, o ...[text shortened]... communists did, is a pretty poor excuse, if you ask me. But then what do I know, right?

once you can differentiate the teachings of Christ and the actions of so called Christians, you will appreciate that they are nothing of the sort, look my friend, its not week, nor is it meant to excuse their horrific actions, its just a fact. you cannot claim to be a Marxist if you do not follow the teachings of Marx, can you?, you cannot claim to be a witch if you do not follow some code of practice, either as a member of a coven or on the basis of your own practice, why then must we call those who do not follow the practices of Christ, Christians? It simply makes no sense, but you are correct, there have been tremendous atrocities committed in the name of god, for which he is not responsible and those who perpetrate such are the most heinous of mankind!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
once you can differentiate the teachings of Christ and the actions of so called Christians, you will appreciate that they are nothing of the sort, look my friend, its not week, nor is it meant to excuse their horrific actions, its just a fact. you cannot claim to be a Marxist if you do not follow the teachings of Marx, can you?, you cannot claim to ...[text shortened]... , for which he is not responsible and those who perpetrate such are the most heinous of mankind!

Why? Because it's a historical fact, that's why. In thier minds, they where truly doing Gods work. Just like the saracens where doing Allahs work and so on and so forth. Every religion has its fanatics, people that are willing to take things to the extreme. And why does it happen, because the people that do follow the rightious path don't have the gall to say, NO THIS IS WRONG! They permit these atrocities, that are against everything the religion stands for, to happen. In silence.

Take for instance this gaza thing happening now. Who's paying the price for Hamas firing rockets into Israel? Mostly Joe average palestinian, who just wants to live his life and mind his own business. Was anybody saying, you know what these Hamas guys aren't true muslims, they are nothing but freaking thugs and terrorists using our religion as an excuse. If we don't stop them, we are going to pay the price. And lo and behold, they are paying the price.

Religions that turn a blind eye towards fanatism within their own ranks without doing much of anything to stop it are just as guilty as the people perpetrating the actual atrocities, in my opinion. It's easy to say, after the fact, well they weren't true christians, or muslims or what have you.

Personally, I truly believe that organize religions are nothing more then how the few control the many. Simple as that. Not saying that's a definite fact, just my own personal opinion. Cheers M8!

Originally posted by Ray Gunz I
Why? Because it's a historical fact, that's why. In thier minds, they where truly doing Gods work. Just like the saracens where doing Allahs work and so on and so forth. Every religion has its fanatics, people that are willing to take things to the extreme. And why does it happen, because the people that do follow the rightious path don't have the gall to ...[text shortened]... le as that. Not saying that's a definite fact, just my own personal opinion. Cheers M8!

yes i have to agree, its rather worrying don't you think?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i have to agree, its rather worrying don't you think?

Sadly yes. And I'm not saying putting a stop to fanatics is a easy thing to accomplish either. Considering that in most cases in order to do so, you'd most likely have to go to war against them. So now you're back where you started. It's a messed up world, no matter how you slice it.

Anyways, what I was originally trying to say was, blaming crap on Satan is nonsense. Man is his own worst enemy, always has been, always will be. Satan is the excuse for evil, not the cause of it. I think that blaming Satan for stuff is just as silly as saying something like, "How could God let this happen?" God and Satan most likely could care less. Good and evil do exist, within each and every one of us. It's our individual choice what path we chose to take in life, good or evil.