1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/18/7802623-gamers-solve-molecular-puzzle-that-baffled-scientists?GT1=43001
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    20 Sep '11 21:16
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/18/7802623-gamers-solve-molecular-puzzle-that-baffled-scientists?GT1=43001
    You could just as well throw some ink on a page and ask whether the explanation for the result should be discussed in Science or Spirituality. All it will tell you about, is the people who reply.
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    20 Sep '11 21:171 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/18/7802623-gamers-solve-molecular-puzzle-that-baffled-scientists?GT1=43001
    I read this a few days ago but not sure why you want us to use this as an example for spirituality or what it has to do with spirituality?

    This piece is showing what humans linked to computers can do that humans by themselves or computers can't do separately.

    One thing I don't understand is when they know the job is done, seeking the lowest energy state. Why do they know there is no further reduction in energy state available.

    So all in all, this is a scientific quest not spiritual.
  4. Standard memberRJHinds
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    20 Sep '11 22:51
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I read this a few days ago but not sure why you want us to use this as an example for spirituality or what it has to do with spirituality?

    This piece is showing what humans linked to computers can do that humans by themselves or computers can't do separately.

    One thing I don't understand is when they know the job is done, seeking the lowest energy st ...[text shortened]... duction in energy state available.

    So all in all, this is a scientific quest not spiritual.
    No doubt this is a scientific quest, but I don't think we can rule out the
    need for spirituality in the quest for truth. The following quote was
    pointed out in another thread:

    Measuring the quantum properties of pairs of light particles (photons) pumped out by a laser has convinced Zeilinger that "we have to give up the idea of realism to a far greater extent than most physicists believe today."

    "Our paper is not the end of the road," he says. "But we have a little more evidence that the world is really strange."
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    No doubt this is a scientific quest, but I don't think we can rule out the
    need for spirituality in the quest for truth. The following quote was
    pointed out in another thread:

    Measuring the quantum properties of pairs of light particles (photons) pumped out by a laser has convinced Zeilinger that "we have to give up the idea of realism to a far greater ...[text shortened]... he road," he says. "But we have a little more evidence that the world is really strange."
    there are different properties in quantum physics that we haven't discovered yet. it's still a young science, give it time.

    games like the one you linked will likely allow humans to create life from scratch one day and in doing so, discover a working theory of abiogenesis. the only thing left for your god to do then will be to juggle balls and tell bad jokes.
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    21 Sep '11 01:04
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    there are different properties in quantum physics that we haven't discovered yet. it's still a young science, give it time.

    games like the one you linked will likely allow humans to create life from scratch one day and in doing so, discover a working theory of abiogenesis. the only thing left for your god to do then will be to juggle balls and tell bad jokes.
    What, discover a working theory of abiogenesis? Science fiction again.
  7. Standard memberavalanchethecat
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    21 Sep '11 17:23
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What, discover a working theory of abiogenesis? Science fiction again.
    Flying to the moon was science fiction once. As were personal computers, mobile telephones, gene-therapy, flat-screen televisions, antibiotics, GPS satellites, microwave ovens, synthetic diamonds, aeroplanes, lasers, digital watches etc. etc.
  8. Standard memberRJHinds
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    21 Sep '11 18:07
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    Flying to the moon was science fiction once. As were personal computers, mobile telephones, gene-therapy, flat-screen televisions, antibiotics, GPS satellites, microwave ovens, synthetic diamonds, aeroplanes, lasers, digital watches etc. etc.
    Really?
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    21 Sep '11 18:17
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Really?
    Yes.
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    21 Sep '11 18:59
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/18/7802623-gamers-solve-molecular-puzzle-that-baffled-scientists?GT1=43001
    .
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    21 Sep '11 19:29
    he has a point....
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    21 Sep '11 20:44
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/18/7802623-gamers-solve-molecular-puzzle-that-baffled-scientists?GT1=43001
    Science.
  13. Standard memberRJHinds
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    22 Sep '11 01:21
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    Yes.
    We didn't find any moon men.
  14. Standard memberRJHinds
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    22 Sep '11 01:22
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    he has a point....
    You mean Dasa finally got through to you.
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    22 Sep '11 10:18
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    We didn't find any moon men.
    not all science fiction comes true, but many scientific advances, were once science fiction.
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