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Sex outside marriage is going to become punishable by 1 year in gaol here in Indonesia. Some have argued it is none of the government's business.

Thoughts?



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Identity politics, rise of theologically conservative populism, disaffection with secular governance, unease with "Western values", and the somewhat widespread belief that such a law will be genuinely of benefit to a mostly godly and traditional society whose moral standards are seen as eroding..

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@fmf said
Sex outside marriage is going to become punishable by 1 year in gaol here in Indonesia. Some have argued it is none of the government's business.

Thoughts?
Feel good legislation passed by a bunch of lawmakers who are no doubt jumping between the sheets with their shapely secretary's, staff members or anything else with a pulse. Sanctimony is a common byproduct of lawmakers in every nation.

It will be interesting to see how their new laws deal with 2 women who were legally married in another country, but now live in Indonesia.


@fmf said
Sex outside marriage is going to become punishable by 1 year in gaol here in Indonesia. Some have argued it is none of the government's business.

Thoughts?
In the Bible, many men have had many wives, and concubines. I'm not sure when society, or the Bible, has altered this.

For example, Bathsheba was one of many wives of King David, and it was accepted.


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Conveniently, that's New Testament. Written by someone other than Jesus.

Another instance of ignoring the Old Testament, as if it was rubbish.

Edit: I might start a new thread about how much the Old Testament is cast aside once Jesus arrives on the scene.

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@fmf said
Identity politics, rise of theologically conservative populism, disaffection with secular governance, unease with "Western values", and the somewhat widespread belief that such a law will be genuinely of benefit to a mostly godly and traditional society whose moral standards are seen as eroding..
In a predominantly Muslim country. Not surprised. Right in line with Saudi Arabia. Let them have their medieval Sharia Law for all I care. I’ll holiday in Greece or Sweden instead.

Does the Indonesian law provide for temporary marriage and instant divorce (repeated three times by the husband )?


@fmf said
Sex outside marriage is going to become punishable by 1 year in gaol here in Indonesia. Some have argued it is none of the government's business.

Thoughts?
If you happen to have sex in gaol, would that extend the original sentence?

As for me, I think the government should be taken to court to explain why that would be any of their business.

As a gay man, I suspect this is their attempt to make a show of being even-handed while continuing to criminalize gay sex to placate the proud and easily agitated superstitious numpties who, it should be said, also have their counterparts over here in the Comments-Section States of the USA.


@moonbus said
Does the Indonesian law provide for temporary marriage and instant divorce (repeated three times by the husband )?
There is a form of polygamy-compliant "quickie" marriage called "nikah siri" available to Muslim men, as it were, and supposedly legitimate ~ while at the same time being done discreetly and on the hush-hush. I would tend to doubt that there would be successful prosecutions of people who had sex outside an erstwhile monogamous marriage through "nikah siri".

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