1. Standard memberRedmike
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    Students at Stirling University have voted to ban bibles from University residences:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4450363.stm

    A step in the right direction.
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    16 Apr '05 16:54
    Originally posted by Redmike
    Students at Stirling University have voted to ban bibles from University residences:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4450363.stm

    A step in the right direction.
    I hope they learn from their mistake.
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    16 Apr '05 16:54
    Originally posted by Redmike
    Students at Stirling University have voted to ban bibles from University residences:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4450363.stm

    A step in the right direction.
    Why is this good? Why should any book be banned?
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    16 Apr '05 17:00
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Why is this good? Why should any book be banned?
    I have to agree, I have always held the stance that no book should be banned. My school library had a copy of mien kampf and a copy of the Bible. I've read them both.

    Nyxie
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    16 Apr '05 17:04
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Why is this good? Why should any book be banned?
    Despite Redmike's claim, they are not banning the bible. They are merely trying to get the university to stop putting bibles in all the student residences.

    It would be like getting all US hotel chains to stop putting bibles in the rooms.
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    16 Apr '05 17:05
    Originally posted by Redmike
    Students at Stirling University have voted to ban bibles from University residences:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4450363.stm

    A step in the right direction.
    What are you thinking?

    (what are you afraid of?)

    I wouldn't want the Socialist Manifesto banned from my library?

    (I'm not afraid of it!)
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    Phew. I was worried there for a second.
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    16 Apr '05 18:30
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Despite Redmike's claim, they are not banning the bible. They are merely trying to get the university to stop putting bibles in all the student residences.

    It would be like getting all US hotel chains to stop putting bibles in the rooms.
    Lot of difference between banning and not promoting.
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    16 Apr '05 19:30
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    Lot of difference between banning and not promoting.
    If it were banning, I'd disagree with it. I cannot agree with the banning of any book for any reason. It is like saying access to certain knowledge is wrong and that is exactly the sort of thing I feel religion is guilty of already. Reciprocating this stance would be hypocritical.
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    16 Apr '05 19:54
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Despite Redmike's claim, they are not banning the bible. They are merely trying to get the university to stop putting bibles in all the student residences.

    It would be like getting all US hotel chains to stop putting bibles in the rooms.
    I agree with most of the posters here. Stopping them from putting Bibles in rooms is good; banning Bibles outright is bad.
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    16 Apr '05 20:05
    Originally posted by Redmike
    Students at Stirling University have voted to ban bibles from University residences:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4450363.stm

    A step in the right direction.

    What is interesting of course in your post is the addition : "A step in the right direction".

    What exactly is that "right direction" and where does this "right direction" lead us ?
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    16 Apr '05 20:07
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Despite Redmike's claim, they are not banning the bible. They are merely trying to get the university to stop putting bibles in all the student residences.

    It would be like getting all US hotel chains to stop putting bibles in the rooms.
    OK, let's go a little farther with this. Duke University gives every entering freshman an IPod. It is not just a "gift", but something that is used in doing various types of research. While I can never imagine them turning down or voting to have them removed from their campus, for the sake of argument, let's say they do as they don't want to support a company that is run by what they feel is an overly wealthy tyrannical CEO. Would there be any parallels to these two situations?
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    16 Apr '05 20:121 edit
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    OK, let's go a little farther with this. Duke University gives every entering freshman an IPod. It is not just a "gift", but something that is used in doing various types of research. While I can never imagine them turning down or ...[text shortened]... nnical CEO. Would there be any parallels to these two situations?
    I think an appropriate parallel might be giving every theology student access to the Bible, the Koran, and a number of other religious texts.

    Another parallel would be for theology students to object to being given a Bible published by a certain unscrupulous publishing company.

    Not all students are going to use the Bible for everyday school work. Those that do are either at Bob Jones University or are theology students and will need other religious texts as well. It's far less sensible to be putting Bibles in every student's residence "for research and schoolwork" than it is to give them an IPod for the same reasons.
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    16 Apr '05 20:18
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    OK, let's go a little farther with this. Duke University gives every entering freshman an IPod. It is not just a "gift", but something that is used in doing various types of research. While I can never imagine them turning down or voting to have them removed from their campus, for the sake of argument, let's say they do as they don't want to supp ...[text shortened]... feel is an overly wealthy tyrannical CEO. Would there be any parallels to these two situations?
    I wouldn't turn down a Bible nor an IPod, and I am not Christian nor particularily fond of ipods.. Am a muslim and proud of my 1GB mp3 player.

    Give people the choice, if they want a Bible, then a Bible they can have. If they wish to differ, then lets not spit the dummy and enforce a general ban..
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    16 Apr '05 22:581 edit
    Originally posted by Peachy
    I wouldn't turn down a Bible nor an IPod, and I am not Christian nor particularily fond of ipods.. Am a muslim and proud of my 1GB mp3 player.

    Give people the choice, if they want a Bible, then a Bible they can have. If they wish to differ, then lets not spit the dummy and enforce a general ban..
    What if they want a Koran? I have a Bible, I want a Koran. If I went to Duke would they give me a Koran? How about books arguing atheism?

    Do they give all these books to freshmen without asking?
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