10 Apr 08
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungThey're not good.
Good old Texas Christians. This is GWB's constituency.
They're not all old.
They're not all originally from Texas. (In fact, according to FOXnews.com, the girls were told by their "spiritual husbands" that the world outside the compound was the, well, outside world, therefore I'd hardly think that they think of themselves as Texans, which anybody who knows anybody from Texas, that is almost more important than being an American.)
They're certainly not Christians. They are the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Just because "Jesus Christ" is in the name doesn't make them Christian. The mainstream LDS doesn't recognize them as being part of them either. Most mainstream Christian denominations do not consider the LDS to be a fellow Christian denomination. And the LDS does not consider and of the mainstream Christian denominations to be of equal value or correctness or stature as the LDS. The LDS says Christians are ok and will occupy part of heaven, but the male members of the LDS are in for a greater treat. They get to be gods of their very own planets one day, just like their big brother Jehovah is the god of this planet, and now Jesus, Jehovah's physical child with Mary (yes from actual sexual intercourse) having been the Savior for this world is now god of his own planet somewhere. The reason the LDS has always allowed many wives is because it is through copulation and propagation that the worlds that they'll be gods over will be filled. Only recently did the mainstream LDS change their minds about polygamy. In fact, only recently did they say that now whites could now join the LDS. Aren't they a cheery group. And, don't get me started on the Holy Underwear. Google it for yourself.
And as of GWB's constituency, even the Dixie Chicks (Texans) are embarrassed by this dud. I guess, I don't agree with anything you posted here. Oh well. No offense. Cheers.
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by Big MacYour summary of LDS betrays your ignorance of it and your hostility towards it. Just about
They're not good.
They're not all old.
They're not all originally from Texas. (In fact, according to FOXnews.com, the girls were told by their "spiritual husbands" that the world outside the compound was the, well, outside world, therefore I'd hardly think that they think of themselves as Texans, which anybody who knows anybody from Texas, that is almost m ...[text shortened]... uess, I don't agree with anything you posted here. Oh well. No offense. Cheers.
everything you posted constituted a vaguely perverse misrepresentation of what the LDS actually holds.
If you are in fact a Christian, you ought to know the perversions that non-Christians who are
hostile towards Christianity engage in. Consequently, you should have a little empathy for
the Mormon Church and not be so snide in your disingenuous presentations about it.
Nemesio
10 Apr 08
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Originally posted by NemesioFair enough. Correct my errors please. I'm always interested in learning.
Your summary of LDS betrays your ignorance of it and your hostility towards it. Just about
everything you posted constituted a vaguely perverse misrepresentation of what the LDS actually holds.
If you are in fact a Christian, you ought to know the perversions that non-Christians who are
hostile towards Christianity engage in. Consequently, you shoul ...[text shortened]... r
the Mormon Church and not be so snide in your disingenuous presentations about it.
Nemesio
Follow up question:
If the party involved at the compound were a mainstream Christian denomination, would you have been so quick to come to its defense against someone critiquing the group from without? I've followed several of your posts, and I think not. But, I hope I am wrong, and I welcome your insight on this very popular religion.
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by Big MacWhat do you mean by 'mainstream'. The Mormons are pretty big you know.
Follow up question:
If the party involved at the compound were a mainstream Christian denomination, would you have been so quick to come to its defense against someone critiquing the group from without? I've followed several of your posts, and I think not. But, I hope I am wrong, and I welcome your insight on this very popular religion.
And yes, I for one would come to the defense of the Roman Catholic Church if the group in question had been Roman Catholics. However, since the Catholic Church is much more unified body I would question anyone who might have known about, covered up and allowed the scandal to continue - as has happened in the Catholic Church with regards to child abuse by priests.
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by Nemesioempathy for the mormon church? you mean i shouldn't make fun of them because they invented their own religion?
Your summary of LDS betrays your ignorance of it and your hostility towards it. Just about
everything you posted constituted a vaguely perverse misrepresentation of what the LDS actually holds.
If you are in fact a Christian, you ought to know the perversions that non-Christians who are
hostile towards Christianity engage in. Consequently, you shoul ...[text shortened]... r
the Mormon Church and not be so snide in your disingenuous presentations about it.
Nemesio
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by NemesioYou mean:
If you are in fact a Christian, you ought to know the perversions that non-Christians who are
hostile towards Christianity engage in. Consequently, you should have a little empathy for
the Mormon Church and not be so snide in your disingenuous presentations about it.
Nemesio
Even when christians do something wrong, they are doing the right anyway because they are christians.
But if they do anything too wrong, then they can't be christians, because christians don't do such things.
Hmm, I must consider this...
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by ZahlanziI think what he said is that you shouldn't spread falsehood about them simply because you don't agree with them. For example, they did not 'invent their own religion'. It is quite possible that someone did invent it, but it was not one of the current members. The writer (or translator as he claimed) of the Book of Mormon died in 1844 according to Wikipedia.
empathy for the mormon church? you mean i shouldn't make fun of them because they invented their own religion?
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by NemesioIn his defence, he was talking about the breakaway Fundamentalist version of it, not the official version. Did you pick up on that?
Your summary of LDS betrays your ignorance of it and your hostility towards it. Just about
everything you posted constituted a vaguely perverse misrepresentation of what the LDS actually holds.
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by Bosse de NageTry as I might, I cant pick up on that either. As far as I can tell, his worst comments are directed directly at LDS as a whole.
In his defence, he was talking about the breakaway Fundamentalist version of it, not the official version. Did you pick up on that?
10 Apr 08
Originally posted by twhitehead"They are the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Just because "Jesus Christ" is in the name doesn't make them Christian. The mainstream LDS doesn't recognize them as being part of them either."
Try as I might, I cant pick up on that either. As far as I can tell, his worst comments are directed directly at LDS as a whole.
10 Apr 08
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageUnless I am mistaken, he then proceeds to criticize the 'mainstream' LDS in general.
"They are the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Just because "Jesus Christ" is in the name doesn't make them Christian. The mainstream LDS doesn't recognize them as being part of them either."