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The decade-old Suzianne-harangue about me supposedly being a liar is utter nonsense. Why have you been echoing it these past few months?


@fmf said
The word paedophilia was not created until the beginning of the C20th as social values changed. At the end of the C19th, the age of consent in most U.S. states was remarkably low - 7, 10, or 12 . To characterize the Mormon marriages you listed involving girls in their mid teens in the mid-C19th as examples of pedophilia is abjectly anachronistic and ahistorical.
I guess the same could be said of Mohammad’s marriage to Aisha.

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@moonbus said
I guess the same could be said of Mohammad’s marriage to Aisha.
Of course. The Aisha thing is a trope brandished in the Culture Wars by people who ignore the fact that the age of consent in the state of Delaware, in the US, for example, was 7 almost into the C20th, and that betrothals at the age of 9 were commonplace across Europe 1,500 years ago.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
I think you hold a monopoly on lying sir.
What's this kind of thing all about? You've been riffing on this all year.

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@divegeester

My dad was involved with the Mormons for a while, and as a kid (5 y/o) we had regular "Elders" visit us, really nice guys who tried to convince me that tinned spaghetti was made from worms. Later on in my late twenties I worked for a guy in Croydon that was an appointed man in the local congregation, and had quite lengthy discussions. So unless thing have changed

1) Yes they do beleive in Father Son and Holy Ghost but not as a defined trinity as per the Athanasian Creed (which can't be found in a bible anyway).

2) They are/were very respectful around the subject of Idolatory, so you won't find crosses and such in their churches (Tabernacles) that are bowed to or placed in areas of venoration as you do in many of the denomination.

3) They tithe, so 10% of their earnings went to the church, but as I understood it the resources accumulated went back to support congregations in need.

4) They were known for a polygamy, but as I understood it the church has a fracture line, and the more modern approach was towards ending that in favour of monogamy.

5) They don't drink coffee or alcohol, but oddly enough cocoa -cola was ok; they clearly hadn't read the label and worked out what was in it.

6) They are known as a evengelical group, so preach and teach door to door in the same fashion as the early Christians.

The most famous mormon family that I can think of was probably "The Osmonds".


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@fmf said
You are not using the word "irony" properly.

Your trolling on page 1 has been removed, I note.
Congratulations. Looks like we know who are in the "clique" abusing alerts.

Do you think this invalidates the irony of your statement?

No, it does not.


@suzianne said
Congratulations. Looks like we know who are in the "clique" abusing alerts.
What "clique"?


@suzianne said
Do you think this invalidates the irony of your statement?
There was nothing ironic about my statement



@fmf said
Of course. The Aisha thing is a trope brandished in the Culture Wars by people who ignore the fact that the age of consent in the state of Delaware, in the US, for example, was 7 almost into the C20th, and that betrothals at the age of 9 were commonplace across Europe 1,500 years ago.
Well, now you've piqued my interest. Did a bit of poking around on the Internet, and lo! and behold, there is actually some scholarly research into the history of child brides in America. For example:

https://www.cpr.org/show-segment/child-marriage-common-in-the-past-persists-today/

In many rural areas, until the end of the 19th c., people did not always know the age of everyone in the vicinity, as exact records were not kept and no birth certificates were issued to women who gave birth in log cabins in the Ozarks... As the above author mentions, people in those times did not have a chronological concept of a person's age anyway, but a functional concept.

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You've got me on that one, sounds like an anagram of Bolok πŸ˜†

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@moonbus

Check out Jerry Lee Lewis on that one who had great balls of fire, or so he sung

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