01 Sep 19
In Matthew 8:5-13, a Centurion came to Jesus and asked Him to heal his very sick servant. Jesus was going to go to the Centurion's home, but the Centurion said that he wasn't worthy of that, and that he knew if Jesus just said the word, his servant would be healed.
Jesus was "impressed" by this man's "great faith", and told him to go home, for the servant is healed.
Moral of story: The Centurion did nothing, except show great faith, and Jesus was impressed. NO works, just "faith".
Jesus wants us to have faith in Him.
01 Sep 19
@fmf saidWhat did the Centurion do, except show great faith.
More geeing oneself up by insisting that followers of Jesus are not obligated to obey his commandments or do good works or demonstrate that their faith is not "dead".
Would you care to comment about the OP?
Or would you rather continue with assumed accusations.
01 Sep 19
@fmf saidThat means it's NOT just about works.
48 hours ago on this very forum you were adamant that "Belief is required along with works".
Faith, belief, grace, etc., all play their own roles.
The Centurion, just like the thief on the cross, only needed to display their faith, and Jesus responded.
@chaney3 saidIf one looks at the NT as a whole, works and obedience is surely how a Christian demonstrates "faith". Can one "walk the walk" of a Christian life based only on thinking things (i.e. belief)? If that's the ideology, then it sounds mundane and manmade. The people who believe they can Think Their Way To Heaven may be interested in The Very User-Friendly Diet.
That means it's NOT just about works.
Faith, belief, grace, etc., all play their own roles.
The Centurion, just like the thief on the cross, only needed to display their faith, and Jesus responded.
@fmf saidMy OP refers to verses in Matthew, regarding a Centurion, right? What did he do to earn the favor of Jesus?
If one looks at the NT as a whole, works and obedience is surely how a Christian demonstrates "faith". Can one "walk the walk" of a Christian life based only on thinking things (i.e. belief)? If that's the ideology, then it sounds mundane and manmade. The people who believe they can Think Their Way To Heaven may be interested in The Very User-Friendly Diet.
And yes, the NT "as a whole" demonstrates, through this story, that it's NOT all about works. Faith is part of that "whole story", and in this case, faith alone was sufficient. Actually, more than sufficient, Jesus was "very impressed"!!!
@chaney3 saidDoes the story say that the centurion went to "Heaven" after he died? As you know, "faith" is meaningless without works.
My OP refers to verses in Matthew, regarding a Centurion, right? What did he do to earn the favor of Jesus?
And yes, the NT "as a whole" demonstrates, through this story, that it's NOT all about works. Faith is part of that "whole story", and in this case, faith alone was sufficient. Actually, more than sufficient, Jesus was "very impressed"!!!
@fmf saidThe Centurion "believed" that Jesus could heal his servant.
Do you think someone who declares they believe in Jesus - and/or his teaching - can do so without obeying his commandments and doing good works?
The Centurion "asked" Jesus for help.
Jesus was "very impressed" with his faith.
Jesus healed the servant
Nowhere in this story are we told how the Centurion conducted his life after this event, or even if he followed the teachings of Jesus after that encounter.