@ghost-of-a-duke saidThat's not talking about unbelievers in the general sense of day to day common contact.
I can do better. What about 2 John 1:10-11:
'If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.'
The context is talking about "him" that "does not bring this teaching".
The context is referring to anyone that "comes to you" bringing a teaching contrary to what John had said in the previous three verses.
I hope you see the meaning.
@secondson saidI said I don't post with the intent of persuading anyone to abandon their beliefs. You should post as you see fit. I didn't talk about anything being "wrong".
But I do. And what's wrong with that?
@fmf saidFine. But you're over exaggerating.
I said I don't post with the intent of persuading anyone to abandon their beliefs. You should post as you see fit. I didn't talk about anything being "wrong".
You said, "I am most certainly not...", the inference being vehement, as though participation with the intent to persuade is somehow unacceptable.
And that I "should post as I see fit" goes without saying.
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@secondson said"Vehement"? You are being paranoid. How on Earth could trying to persuade someone to adopt one's religious beliefs on Spirituality Forum be "unacceptable"?
You said, "I am most certainly not...", the inference being vehement, as though participation with the intent to persuade is somehow unacceptable.
@fmf saidI'm not being paranoid. You're over exaggerating.
"Vehement"? You are being paranoid. How on Earth could trying to persuade someone to adopt one's religious beliefs on Spirituality Forum be "unacceptable"?
You said, "I am most certainly not...". That is a forceful way of asserting your non-intent to persuade. It carries with it a sense of vehemence of driving home a point.
So what? Say it any way you want.
But I took it, because of its forceful delivery ~ "most certainly" ~ that you disapprove of the use of persuasiveness as a means of changing people's beliefs.
Well, if I'm wrong, then so be it. It ain't no big deal to me. I've been wrong before.
@secondson saidHow would attempting to persuade someone else to adopt their beliefs on a forum like this be "unacceptable"?
I'm not being paranoid. You're over exaggerating.
You said, "I am most certainly not...". That is a forceful way of asserting your non-intent to persuade. It carries with it a sense of vehemence of driving home a point.
So what? Say it any way you want.
But I took it, because of its forceful delivery ~ "most certainly" ~ that you disapprove of the use of persuasiv ...[text shortened]... s beliefs.
Well, if I'm wrong, then so be it. It ain't no big deal to me. I've been wrong before.
And could someone possibly be "vehement" in their feeling that it was "unacceptable"?
It's ludicrous. You are barking up the wrong tree.
@secondson said"Forceful"? "Vehemence"? What nonsense.
You said, "I am most certainly not...". That is a forceful way of asserting your non-intent to persuade. It carries with it a sense of vehemence of driving home a point.
So what? Say it any way you want.
But I took it, because of its forceful delivery ~ "most certainly" ~ that you disapprove of the use of persuasiveness as a means of changing people's beliefs.
Well, if I'm wrong, then so be it. It ain't no big deal to me. I've been wrong before.
@secondson saidYou are barking up the wrong tree and now seem to be shifting to personal remarks instead of talking about your misunderstanding.
@FMF
Apparently you're just one of those kind of people that are never wrong.
Come to think of it I don't recall you ever being wrong about anything.
Ghost of a Duke: Is it okay for an atheist to persuade a Christian, with sound reasoning, to abandon their beliefs?
FMF: I am most certainly not someone who participates in this forum with the intent to persuade anyone to abandon their beliefs.
@fmf saidYour reply to Ghost's question isn't an answer. The appropriate answer, if you had understood the question correctly, would be either yes or no.
You are barking up the wrong tree and now seem to be shifting to personal remarks instead of talking about your misunderstanding.
Ghost of a Duke: Is it okay for an atheist to persuade a Christian, with sound reasoning, to abandon their beliefs?
FMF: I am most certainly not someone who participates in this forum with the intent to persuade anyone to abandon their beliefs.
But your answer was shrill and defensive, denying, vehemently, participation in persuading anyone to abandon their beliefs.
I haven't misunderstood anything, but you have.
@secondson saidNo. You've wrong. Not "shrill". Not "vehement". Not "defensive". Just normal.
But your answer was shrill and defensive, denying, vehemently, participation in persuading anyone to abandon their beliefs.
@secondson saidNot only are you wrong but you are trying way too hard. And, as you say, ou've been wrong before.
Well, if I'm wrong, then so be it. It ain't no big deal to me. I've been wrong before.