@caissad4 saidThe degree to which people conform with tradition varies from region to region and from family to family. The Minangkabau of Sumatra have a matrilineal tradition even though they are strongly Islamic.
In Indonesia , do all siblings inherit equally or do they follow Islamic law where the females inherit 1/2 of what the male heirs inherit ?
@caissad4 saidSomeone asked Mohammed whether he (Mohammed) would go to heaven. Mohammed replied that he did not know, only Allah knew.
Yes , in the Quran , it is stated that Mohammad is the perfect man .
http://www.jesus-islam.org/questions/muhammad-etait-il-certain-daller-au-paradis/
@whodey saidA large body of Islamic law has grown up since the Koran was written down. It is a religion not frozen in time, you know.
Why on earth would they then question the morality of their supreme leader Mo by suggesting that marriage at the age of 6 is not moral?
Google “Indonesian women” and look at images. You won’t see them wearing burkas. Some westerners have a very one-sided image of Islam. This is partly due to inadequate reporting by western media, partly due to over-reporting and sensationalizing of certain very extreme or militant forms of Islam (e.g., Wahabism, the ideological roots of the Taliban).
@fmf saidThere is currently parliamentary talk about raising it to 18. There is a contradiction here. In the UK the age of consent is 16, and it seems odd that one can give informed consent to sex at 16 but not marry.
Do you think the UK's 16 y.o. is too low?
One can only marry with parental consent. If there is no sign of coercive control then I don't see a problem. The difficulty is that in cases where there is a problem the people one would hope would provide guidance and support, in other words the parents and faith leaders, are part of the problem. Worse there are enough people working in social services that would be opposed to them marrying on general principles, and not look at the case objectively.
So I think this is a very difficult problem. Except where there is an age gap. If one party is much older, say the prospective husband is 30+ and the prospective bride 16, then that is a huge red flag and it should be stopped until the girl is 18 and has legal autonomy.
@deepthought saidHmm. Sounds like some kind of formula must needs be concocted that accounts for not just the ages of a couple that wishes to marry, but also the absolute value of the difference in ages, among other things.
There is currently parliamentary talk about raising it to 18. There is a contradiction here. In the UK the age of consent is 16, and it seems odd that one can give informed consent to sex at 16 but not marry.
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