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    19 May '05 09:50
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    Christianity, some strains of Judiasm, and Islam (I think) make clear distinctions between
    the ephemeral and the eternal, the flesh and the psyche (usually rendered 'soul'😉.
    The psyche, they assert, inherently 'is' -- it exists, unchanging in the image of God.
    The flesh is 'animated' (from anima, meaning spirit as distinct fro ...[text shortened]... rs to exist -- that there is something which does not appear that
    does exist?

    Nemesio
    Buddhism uses the via negativa approach. That is, it concerns itself with eliminating the false. Not all that different from Sherlock Holmes' credo, "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

    Philip K. Dick also had a good line -- "Reality is that which remains even after we cease believing in it."

    Buddha's concern was with eliminating the false because he believed that the human mind was just too tricky and any attempt to "name" the positive or true -- as in calling it "God" or "soul", etc. -- would just result in the mind turning it into a static icon, and thus dissociating from its reality. This is why he refused to discuss God or the soul. He taught that the ultimate truth wasn't the problem, that the truth would never go anywhere because it is all that is ultimately real. All we have to concern ourselves with is observing the mind and its tendencies to distort truth via attachment, emotionalism, projection, identification, etc.
  2. Hmmm . . .
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    19 May '05 16:39
    Originally posted by Metamorphosis
    Buddhism uses the via negativa approach. That is, it concerns itself with eliminating the false. Not all that different from Sherlock Holmes' credo, "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

    Philip K. Dick also had a good line -- "Reality is that which remains even after we cease b ...[text shortened]... its tendencies to distort truth via attachment, emotionalism, projection, identification, etc.
    Not all that different from Sherlock Holmes' credo, "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

    “When you have ‘eliminated’* all the makings of your mind,
    all the thoughts and labels and names—who remains?”

    * Or let go of, or gone beyond, or “seen” behind—or allowed them to go their way (no forcing here!).
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