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    The Jehovah Witnesses [JW] are a demonic cult, founded by the false prophet Charles Taze Russell in 1874. Russell was a 33rd degree Freemason, a Satanic organization within an organization that founded many of today's mainstream false religions that masquerade as being Christian.

    The New World Translation is a Satanic Bible. Charles Russell butchered the Bible as bad as Westcott and Hort, referring to Jesus as “a god” in John 1:1.

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/new_world_translation.htm

    The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group's doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. Here are some of the more prominent examples of intentional revisions:

    The New World Translation renders the Greek term word staurós ("cross"😉 as "torture stake" because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that Jesus was crucified on a cross. The New World Translation does not translate the Greek words sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartarus as "hell” because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in hell. The NWT gives the translation "presence" instead of “coming” for the Greek word parousia because Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ has already returned in the early 1900s. In Colossians 1:16, the NWT inserts the word “other” despite its being completely absent from the original Greek text. It does this to give the view that “all other things” were created by Christ, instead of what the text says, “all things were created by Christ.” This is to go along with their belief that Christ is a created being, which they believe because they deny the Trinity.

    The most well-known of all the New World Translation perversions is John 1:1. The original Greek text reads, “the Word was God.” The NWT renders it as “the word was a god.” This is not a matter of correct translation, but of reading one's preconceived theology into the text, rather than allowing the text to speak for itself. There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an"😉, so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text.

    http://www.gotquestions.org/New-World-Translation.html#ixzz2WPKQtepS

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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Jehovah Witnesses [JW] are a demonic cult, founded by the false prophet Charles Taze Russell in 1874. Russell was a 33rd degree Freemason, a Satanic organization within an organization that founded many of today's mainstream false religions that masquerade as being Christian.

    The New World Translation is a Satanic Bible. Charles Russell butchered the ...[text shortened]... ://www.gotquestions.org/New-World-Translation.html#ixzz2WPKQtepS

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    "Charles Russell butchered the Bible as bad as Westcott and Hort, referring to Jesus as “a god” in John 1:1."

    I believe Russell learned to butcher The Word of God from Westcott and Hort.
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    Originally posted by josephw
    [b]"Charles Russell butchered the Bible as bad as Westcott and Hort, referring to Jesus as “a god” in John 1:1."

    I believe Russell learned to butcher The Word of God from Westcott and Hort.[/b]
    what is it about Westcott and Hort base text that you think is corrupt.
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    16 Jun '13 19:561 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Jehovah Witnesses [JW] are a demonic cult, founded by the false prophet Charles Taze Russell in 1874. Russell was a 33rd degree Freemason, a Satanic organization within an organization that founded many of today's mainstream false religions that masquerade as being Christian.

    The New World Translation is a Satanic Bible. Charles Russell butchered the ://www.gotquestions.org/New-World-Translation.html#ixzz2WPKQtepS

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    the sahidic coptic text also states that the word was a god, its part of some of the earliest known complete manuscripts, dated to the third century, before the great apostasy which you weed like Christians have inherited and use to perpetuate your paganism to this day.

    Your text says nothing about the origins of the New world translation and is nothing more than the usual hate speech that we have come to expect from a liar and a known chess engine using cheater. I suspect that if you will lie in one aspect of your life it would take nothing to do so in others.
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    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    what is it about Westcott and Hort base text that you think is corrupt.
    The Alexandrian text.
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    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    what is it about Westcott and Hort base text that you think is corrupt.
    It is taken from the heretical version used by the Arians. I have already made you aware of the Arian heresy, which is the same as the JWs follow today.

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    16 Jun '13 20:04
    Originally posted by josephw
    The Alexandrian text.
    what is corrupt about it.
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    It is taken from the heretical version used by the Arians. I have already made you aware of the Arian heresy, which is the same as the JWs follow today.

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    meaningless opinionated drivel, unless you can tell us what is corrupt your opinions are meaningless.
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    Arianism-- Jesus less than God -- more than human--
    The Arian controversy began in Alexandria, Egypt about 318 AD. Arius (c. 250-c. 336) was a popular Alexandrian priest whose theology about who Jesus was was condemned as heretical by the First Council of Nicaea in 325 and also at the First Council of Constantinople in 381. Arius disagreed with the Bishop Alexander of Alexandria's idea of the Trinity. Arius thought that Alexander was confusing the Son with the Father, who stressed the divinity of the Logos and also his exact likeness with the Father. Arius argued that Jesus, the Logos, was a "creature" who was "begotten" of the Father, who was "unbegotten." Arius, like Origen, believed that the Father was the only true God. The Nicene Creed was written to respond to Arianism.

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    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    meaningless opinionated drivel, unless you can tell us what is corrupt your opinions are meaningless.
    The Alexandrian text is named because it is centered around Alexandria, Egypt. The Bible has nothing good to say about Alexandria. In the first mention of this city, we find men of the synagogue of the Alexandrians helping to incite the martyrdom of Stephen.

    Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen. (Acts 9:6) (see Acts chapters 9 and 10).

    Apollos of Alexandria came preaching an incomplete gospel.

    Acts 18:24-25

    24. And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
    25. This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.

    Preservation dictates that the true Bible will have been passed down through the ages, and will be evident in all time periods. Preservation demands that the Alexandrian text, having a glaring 1,500 year gap in it's transmission, is not the preserved Word of God. The early death of the Alexandrian text shows that God did not preserve it. This is why I maintain a comprehensive list of the Scriptures on preservation: every passage on preservation is a nail in the coffin of the Alexandrian text, nailing the lid back on the coffin of a text which met it's demise 1,600 years ago. Yet modern “scholarship” has reanimated this text, and placed it on life support. Yet, it is still dead.

    The Byzantine text HAS no such gap, but shows continuity back to antiquity.

    Because preservation is a strong witness against the Alexandrian text, it's proponents DENY the notion of a literal, to the word, preservation. (They also reject the notion of heretics altering the Bible, as this would point to the heretical origins of their text.) Thus, Biblical preservation is the strongest witness against the Alexandrian text.

    Alexandrians are forced by their adherence to the Alexandrian text to deny Scripture preservation. Instead, they claim that the Scripture is inerrant only in the “original autographs.” As the originals disappeared centuries ago, this is a direct denial of preservation. There is not one Scripture passage that states that only the originals were perfect and inerrant. The inerrancy of Scripture is never limited to the originals.

    The Byzantine text is centered around Antioch, Syria. Here, the disciples of Christ were first called “Christians.” Antioch also served as a base of operations for the early church.

    Acts 11:25-28

    25. Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
    26. And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
    27. And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.

    http://www.biblesupersearch.com/article.php?id=233

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    16 Jun '13 22:41
    Excellent work RJ.
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    Originally posted by josephw
    Excellent work RJ.
    sorry your evidence is circumstantial, i see no variance other than some silly assertions about the city of Alexandria and a disciple who was only aware of the Baptism of John, we are talking about the text, you have made no references to the actual text. Do you know anything about its contents?
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    16 Jun '13 22:471 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Alexandrian text is named because it is centered around Alexandria, Egypt. The Bible has nothing good to say about Alexandria. In the first mention of this city, we find men of the synagogue of the Alexandrians helping to incite the martyrdom of Stephen.

    Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cy ch.com/article.php?id=233

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAdQwidMnE8

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    all mere opinion, you have not made a single reference to that actual contents of the text and how it differs from what we have in our hands this day, i dont do youtube videos other than music, they are for dumb Americans like you and Joseph and RBHill that will believe anything, regardless of actual evidence.
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    16 Jun '13 22:53
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    all mere opinion, you have not made a single reference to that actual contents of the text and how it differs from what we have in our hands this day, i dont do youtube videos other than music, they are for dumb Americans like you and Joseph and RBHill that will believe anything, regardless of actual evidence.
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    16 Jun '13 22:58
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcHZDLB9uF4
    sorry I like to read, not be mindlessly spoon fed.
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