the pope

@eladar said
So you agree with me.

Op says that Popes do dictate the books in a Calvinist's Bible.


Btw, if you want to find evidence of aliens in the Bible look at Genesis 6, the Nephilim.

This is conspiracy-theory-level BS.

The Nephilim were the offspring of fallen angels and humans, no 'aliens' required.

@suzianne said
This is conspiracy-theory-level BS.

The Nephilim were the offspring of fallen angels and humans, no 'aliens' required.

Angels/aliens, six to one half-a-dozen the other.

@suzianne said
This is conspiracy-theory-level BS.

The Nephilim were the offspring of fallen angels and humans, no 'aliens' required.

So magical supernatural angels are a more plausible explanation than solid flesh-n-blood aliens? LOL.

Did it ever occur to you that strangely dressed foreigners descending from the sky in flying machines might be seen as 'angels' by primitive humans?

@suzianne said
This is conspiracy-theory-level BS.

The Nephilim were the offspring of fallen angels and humans, no 'aliens' required.

I do not think the book of Enoch calls them aliens.

@eladar said
I do not think the book of Enoch calls them aliens.

But you did say that the Nephilim were "evidence of aliens".

No, they weren't.

@bunnyknight said
So magical supernatural angels are a more plausible explanation than solid flesh-n-blood aliens? LOL.

Did it ever occur to you that strangely dressed foreigners descending from the sky in flying machines might be seen as 'angels' by primitive humans?

'Aliens' don't exist.

Angels do.

I don't expect to convince naysayers.

I didn't expect to have to convince a self-professed Christian.

@suzianne said
'Aliens' don't exist.

Angels do.

Or maybe they both exist, aliens and angels..

@suzianne said
'Aliens' don't exist.

Angels do.

I don't expect to convince naysayers.

I didn't expect to have to convince a self-professed Christian.

I'd say you're likely wrong on both counts.

@suzianne said
'Aliens' don't exist.

Angels do.

I don't expect to convince naysayers.

I didn't expect to have to convince a self-professed Christian.

It's simply inconceivable, that in the vastness of the universe, Earth is the only planet with life on it. Aliens, therefore, do exist. The only real question is if they have managed to reach us. I think probably not.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
It's simply inconceivable, that in the vastness of the universe, Earth is the only planet with life on it. Aliens, therefore, do exist. The only real question is if they have managed to reach us. I think probably not.

Aliens aren't aliens on their home planet.

Something 'alien' is 'something different' to what is common.

Basically, we call them aliens because they're "not from around here".

If there is life on other planets, which logic says there must be, they probably haven't made it to us, as you said.

Therefore, no 'aliens'.

@suzianne said
Aliens aren't aliens on their home planet.

Something 'alien' is 'something different' to what is common.

Basically, we call them aliens because they're "not from around here".

If there is life on other planets, which logic says there must be, they probably haven't made it to us, as you said.

Therefore, no 'aliens'.

No, they are still alien to us, even on their home planet.

@avalanchethecat said
No, they are still alien to us, even on their home planet.

As we ourselves are aliens to life forms on other worlds.

@suzianne said
Aliens aren't aliens on their home planet.

Something 'alien' is 'something different' to what is common.

Basically, we call them aliens because they're "not from around here".

If there is life on other planets, which logic says there must be, they probably haven't made it to us, as you said.

Therefore, no 'aliens'.

Alien life is life on any planet that isn't our own. Aliens don't become aliens when they climb into a spaceship and traverse the universe.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Alien life is life on any planet that isn't our own. Aliens don't become aliens when they climb into a spaceship and traverse the universe.

No, but they do become "aliens" when seen through our narrow lens.

The entire concept is ridiculous, though, because the universe is so vast that even traveling at the speed of light (which is impossible), it would likely take them far longer than one lifetime to get here from there (and why would they?).

Aliens (in our nomenclature) probably do exist, but we'll likely never know it. Angels, on the other hand, are with us now.

@suzianne said
No, but they do become "aliens" when seen through our narrow lens.

The entire concept is ridiculous, though, because the universe is so vast that even traveling at the speed of light (which is impossible), it would likely take them far longer than one lifetime to get here from there (and why would they?).

Aliens (in our nomenclature) probably do exist, but we'll likely never know it. Angels, on the other hand, are with us now.

It's more likely that there is some work around that enables FTL travel than there is an infinite, omnipotent, omniscient super-being with with immortal servants. You might not like that, but one of those options has infinite quantities in it, and that makes it far, far less likely than the other.