1. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    20 Jul '05 01:05
    I just read an article about elves:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/13/international/europe/13elves.html?ex=1121918400&en=354d75fdba01bfea&ei=5099&partner=TOPIXNEWS

    The gist of it is that many people in Iceland believe in elves. What do you all think about this?

    I am especially interested in these topics: belief in elves compared and contrasted with belief in god(s); and the nature of elves from the perspective of theists who think they may exist or do exist.
  2. Standard memberMoldy Crow
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    20 Jul '05 01:31
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I just read an article about elves:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/13/international/europe/13elves.html?ex=1121918400&en=354d75fdba01bfea&ei=5099&partner=TOPIXNEWS

    The gist of it is that many people in Iceland believe in elves. What do you all think about this?

    I am especially interested in these topics: belief in elves compared and c ...[text shortened]... ); and the nature of elves from the perspective of theists who think they may exist or do exist.
    You spelled "Elvis" wrong .
  3. Standard memberDavid C
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    20 Jul '05 01:51
    Originally posted by Moldy Crow
    You spelled "Elvis" wrong .
    Damn. Someone rec this for me.
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    20 Jul '05 02:09
    Elvis, Elves, God - none of them exist.
  5. Not Kansas
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    20 Jul '05 02:341 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I just read an article about elves:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/13/international/europe/13elves.html?ex=1121918400&en=354d75fdba01bfea&ei=5099&partner=TOPIXNEWS

    The gist of it is that many people in Iceland believe in ...[text shortened]... m the perspective of theists who think they may exist or do exist.
    Echoes of the long-ago.
    I wonder if Neanderthal Man is still remembered by us?
  6. Standard memberWulebgr
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    20 Jul '05 02:531 edit
    Originally posted by David C
    Damn. Someone rec this for me.
    done

    Originally posted by KneverKnight
    Echoes of the long-ago.
    I wonder if Neandertal Man is still remembered by us?


    Sure. I've seen Neanderthals in the bus depot.
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    20 Jul '05 03:04
    The reason that elves don't actually speak directly to people is that elves fail to exist.

    The reason that deities don't actually speak directly to people is that deities want us to take their existence on faith.
  8. Standard memberPalynka
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    20 Jul '05 03:091 edit
    Originally posted by Paul Dirac
    The reason that elves don't actually speak directly to people is that elves fail to exist.

    The reason that deities don't actually speak directly to people is that deities want us to take their existence on faith.
    What about those deities that sent their child to Earth? Seems to me those don't have much faith on faith.
  9. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    20 Jul '05 13:12
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I just read an article about elves:

    [i]

    I am especially interested in these topics: belief in elves compared and contrasted with belief in god(s); and the nature of elves from the perspective of theists who think they may exist or do exist.
    Moi aussi, compadre.

    Elves...where to begin.

    Elves & gods. In Ireland, over the centuries, the gods dwindled to the Sidhe, becoming smaller of stature (3 foot). I don't know, though, if the Sidhe count as elves or are just miniature gods.

    The Norse distinguished between lios alfar and svart alfar (light and dark elves). They lived independently of the mortal gods. The Icelandic elves are probably lios alfar, since the svart alfar favour unpleasant places (those tunnel people under New York city that were in the news a few years back spring to mind). They seem to be older spirits and less helpful. Nobody ever worshipped elves, although they might have propitiated them (perhaps the same act originally?). They are, I think, less corruptible than gods. Now don't go confusing them with fairies.





  10. Standard memberdj2becker
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    20 Jul '05 13:59
    Originally posted by howardgee
    Elvis, Elves, God - none of them exist.
    Would you like to supply some evidence to back up your statement?
  11. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    20 Jul '05 14:01
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Would you like to supply some evidence to back up your statement?
    Be quiet, you're disturbing the elves. Haven't you read the Goat's article?
  12. Standard memberdj2becker
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    20 Jul '05 14:06
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Be quiet, you're disturbing the elves. Haven't you read the Goat's article?
    I suppose they fall asleep when they hear your voice...
  13. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    20 Jul '05 14:241 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I suppose they fall asleep when they hear your voice...
    I've been whistling Dixie in an effort to attract them without any success so far. I'll keep you posted.

    (They dislike human voices in general but monotheists really get them ticked off. They can smell a Christian a mile away.)
  14. Donationrwingett
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    20 Jul '05 14:29
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I've been whistling Dixie in an effort to attract them without any success so far. I'll keep you posted.

    (They dislike human voices in general but monotheists really get them ticked off. They can smell a Christian a mile away.)
    The elves (so I hear) generally hang out with the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
  15. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    20 Jul '05 14:34
    Originally posted by rwingett
    The elves (so I hear) generally hang out with the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
    ...who apparently gave Bobby Fischer (currently resident in Iceland) the idea for his game of Random Chess.
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