"Three Easy Questions"

Originally posted by wolfgang59
OK I give up.
What are the answers?

Closed Ended thinking won't yield definitive answers.
It's not a Cookie Cutter Thread Excercise;
it's open to individual exploration and discovery. (gb)

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]"Three Easy Questions"


1. Do we who post to this internet 'spirituality' forum have 'spiritual' needs?

2. If so, what are they?

3. How are 'spiritual' needs fulfilled and by whom?

(gb)[/b]

Define spiritual (in terms that make sense to me please).

I don't know what it means.

EDIT: or specifically I don't know what you mean by it.
I can go look up what some dictionary's think it means but there are too many different meanings and interpretations used.
And what is relevant to answering your question is what YOU meant by it.

My general answer is probably that I don't have spiritual needs...
But that's going to depend largely on how you define the term.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Define spiritual (in terms that make sense to me please).

I don't know what it means.

EDIT: or specifically I don't know what you mean by it.
I can go look up what some dictionary's think it means but there are too many different meanings and interpretations used.
And what is relevant to answering your question is what YOU meant by it.

My gene ...[text shortened]... n't have spiritual needs...
But that's going to depend largely on how you define the term.

"I don't know what it means." (googlefudge)

Red Hot Pawn Spirituality Forum: "Debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after." (Russ & Chris)

Suggest you ask Russ or Chris.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"I don't know what it means." (googlefudge)

Red Hot Pawn Spirituality Forum: "Debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after." (Russ & Chris)

Suggest you ask Russ or Chris.

We need to ask Russ and Chris for your definition of 'spirituality'?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"I don't know what it means." (googlefudge)

Red Hot Pawn Spirituality Forum: "Debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after." (Russ & Chris)

Suggest you ask Russ or Chris.

As usual your answer is entirely uninformative and unhelpful.

What do YOU mean by the term " 'spiritual' needs "?

If you don't know what you mean then how are peoples answers going to mean anything to you?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
We need to ask Russ and Chris for your definition of 'spirituality'?

"Three Easy Questions"

1. Do we who post to this internet 'spirituality' forum have 'spiritual' needs?

2. If so, what are they?

3. How are 'spiritual' needs fulfilled and by whom?" (OP)

Only if you and googlefudge lack one of your own or one of you could try Googling the word. Your bodies are material and temporal. Do either of you believe your minds and memories are also material as opposed to immaterial?

Originally posted by googlefudge
As usual your answer is entirely uninformative and unhelpful.

What do YOU mean by the term " 'spiritual' needs "?

If you don't know what you mean then how are peoples answers going to mean anything to you?

What will happen to googlefudge when his brain waves stop and his body dies?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
What will happen to googlefudge when his brain waves stop and his body dies?

How many times are you going to ask this question before you accept my answer?


My thoughts, feelings, memories, and personality, are produced by and contained within my brain.

They are stored in the structure and state of the roughly 100 billion neurons that make up my brain.

My body provides sensory input, life support, and motive capabilities to my brain.

If that life support ceases, or something physically disrupts my brain then that delicate structure
that forms my personality and memories and thoughts is destroyed.

And I cease to exist.

We call this death.

For me, nothing whatsoever comes after this.

And I am absolutely certain (psychologically rather than epistemically) that this is what happens when I,
or anyone else dies.


The thing I think of as me is simply a product of my physical brain.
When it is destroyed so am I.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Closed Ended thinking won't yield definitive answers.
It's not a Cookie Cutter Thread Excercise;
it's open to individual exploration and discovery. (gb)

But Wolfie, don't say, "Who is to say?"

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Three Easy Questions"

1. Do we who post to this internet 'spirituality' forum have 'spiritual' needs?

2. If so, what are they?

3. How are 'spiritual' needs fulfilled and by whom?" (OP)

Only if you and googlefudge lack one of your own or one of you could try Googling the word. Your bodies are material and temporal. Do either of you believe your minds and memories are also material as opposed to immaterial?

Spiritual is one of those words that is very poorly and vaguely defined and different
people use it to mean different things.

To answer YOUR question we need to know what YOU mean and for that to happen
YOU need to tell us.

If you know what you mean that should not be to hard.


BTW: I think you mean to say that our bodies are materiel and temporary.
As in they are made of matter and have a limited lifespan.

Saying they are temporal just means they exist in time... Which includes the possibility
that they could last forever.

Temporal isn't a term that sees much use out of Star Trek technobabble.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Closed Ended thinking won't yield definitive answers.
It's not a Cookie Cutter Thread Excercise;
it's open to individual exploration and discovery. (gb)

Open ended thinking by definition will yield no answers as it lacks a halting condition and will never stop.

Originally posted by googlefudge
How many times are you going to ask this question before you accept my answer?


My thoughts, feelings, memories, and personality, are produced by and contained within my brain.

They are stored in the structure and state of the roughly 100 billion neurons that make up my brain.

My body provides sensory input, life support, and motive capabilitie ...[text shortened]... thing I think of as me is simply a product of my physical brain.
When it is destroyed so am I.

"For me, nothing whatsoever comes after this." -googlefudge

When did you discover this certainty?

Originally posted by googlefudge
Open ended thinking by definition will yield no answers as it lacks a halting condition and will never stop.

"... and will never stop." -googlefudge

Bump into an absolute fact [the law of gravity for example] and you stop abruptly.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"For me, nothing whatsoever comes after this." -googlefudge

When did you discover this certainty?

When I came to understand that our thoughts are produced by our brains.

Originally posted by googlefudge
When I came to understand that our thoughts are produced by our brains.

When was that?