10 Mar '08 17:56>1 edit
In response to the recent post about time travel I thought I would outline my conception of how God sees time and how it relates to free will.
My conception is thus... imagine Harry's life laid out in front of you like a wiggling snake on the ground from birth to death (tip to tail). The snake is Harry's timeline of his life. Harry's snake is made up of miniscule segments or sections so that if you chopped the snake up in cross section you could chop it into a trillion pieces like lots of cds stuck together in sequence.
Each cd is a point in time in harry's life but it is also a point in time where harry has made a free choice. You can see in front of you the choices harry has made because you can see the twists and turns of the snake. For example , there's a point in 2004 where harry makes a big decision and his snake kinks abruptly to the left accordingly.
Now each CD has a video clip on it and on this video clip is what harry is choosing at that point in time. So if you play that clip you will see harry making a choice in that individual present moment. This snake is made up of countless cds all with their own present moment and all capable of changing the course of the snake.
However , you see the shape the snake has made through time as set and fixed. In 2004 harry will choose A and in 2016 harry will choose C. But if you visit 2016 and play the cd you will see what's happening in that present moment for harry and see the potential for anything to happen. What you see in 2016 is harry setting his own present choice. The path of the snake becomes set by that present moment and nothing else. At that point in time the snake really could take any path but it has to take one path because we only get one life not hundreds.
In this model harry does not move through a tunnel of time that is set for him but is setting the snake in place as he goes. Except for you (in God's persepctive) you see a series of present moments that are all "now" for you (because you are present with harry in his cd videoclip) but also you can be present in ALL harry's "now" moments as well. To you harry's present , future and past are all one because harry is having a present moment within each of his "nows".
Harry wonders how on earth that God can know what he will choose in 2016 if it is not set , but for God it's just the same as how he knows harry's present. For God 2016 is just as much "now" as 2008 , even though harry hasn't got there yet. God is already there.
So it's not as if God knows what harry WILL do in advance he just sees the choice that harry IS making at that very moment. Harry's life for God is just a series of "nows" all as equal as each other. Harry is creating the path of his snake as he moves through these present moments. For God there is no need to make any predictions or have "foresight" because he is not looking "along" the snake of CDs but sideways at them all equally.
Harry asks God how can I choose differently in 2016 if you know what I will choose? God replies "will? what do you mean "will". I'm watching you choose now harry..and yes you make a choice but it's you that's choosing your path"
At that moment in 2018 harry is still free to choose and as long as he is free IN THAT MOMENT that's all that matters.
My conception is thus... imagine Harry's life laid out in front of you like a wiggling snake on the ground from birth to death (tip to tail). The snake is Harry's timeline of his life. Harry's snake is made up of miniscule segments or sections so that if you chopped the snake up in cross section you could chop it into a trillion pieces like lots of cds stuck together in sequence.
Each cd is a point in time in harry's life but it is also a point in time where harry has made a free choice. You can see in front of you the choices harry has made because you can see the twists and turns of the snake. For example , there's a point in 2004 where harry makes a big decision and his snake kinks abruptly to the left accordingly.
Now each CD has a video clip on it and on this video clip is what harry is choosing at that point in time. So if you play that clip you will see harry making a choice in that individual present moment. This snake is made up of countless cds all with their own present moment and all capable of changing the course of the snake.
However , you see the shape the snake has made through time as set and fixed. In 2004 harry will choose A and in 2016 harry will choose C. But if you visit 2016 and play the cd you will see what's happening in that present moment for harry and see the potential for anything to happen. What you see in 2016 is harry setting his own present choice. The path of the snake becomes set by that present moment and nothing else. At that point in time the snake really could take any path but it has to take one path because we only get one life not hundreds.
In this model harry does not move through a tunnel of time that is set for him but is setting the snake in place as he goes. Except for you (in God's persepctive) you see a series of present moments that are all "now" for you (because you are present with harry in his cd videoclip) but also you can be present in ALL harry's "now" moments as well. To you harry's present , future and past are all one because harry is having a present moment within each of his "nows".
Harry wonders how on earth that God can know what he will choose in 2016 if it is not set , but for God it's just the same as how he knows harry's present. For God 2016 is just as much "now" as 2008 , even though harry hasn't got there yet. God is already there.
So it's not as if God knows what harry WILL do in advance he just sees the choice that harry IS making at that very moment. Harry's life for God is just a series of "nows" all as equal as each other. Harry is creating the path of his snake as he moves through these present moments. For God there is no need to make any predictions or have "foresight" because he is not looking "along" the snake of CDs but sideways at them all equally.
Harry asks God how can I choose differently in 2016 if you know what I will choose? God replies "will? what do you mean "will". I'm watching you choose now harry..and yes you make a choice but it's you that's choosing your path"
At that moment in 2018 harry is still free to choose and as long as he is free IN THAT MOMENT that's all that matters.