Originally posted by Rajk999Raj, I get it. I understand what you're driving at. All I can say is, yes, there are people in the world who claim to believe and yet live despicable lives. And there are no doubt churches where such people aren't made to feel uncomfortable with themselves. Who can deny it? It's a serious matter, I agree.
First, nothing in my post should make you think that Im focusing on the lives of others. It should be obvious that my post was about the wrong teachings of modern Christianity. And thats a serious matter.
Next, many here [Jaywill for eg] believes that even the most serious or sins are not punishable with damnation as long and the Christian is 'saved'. 'Saved' being that he proclaims with his mouth that he accepts Christ as his saviour.
Originally posted by Rajk999Pentecostals are a very money conscious and worldly group. I bet they certainly would not want to do the humble stuff that Jesus did like hang out with the poor, and sick and the deprived.
From what I know of Pentecostals, the 'stuff' that Jesus did that they wanted to do would be miracles. And the reason would be to impress their friends or to make money. Pentecostals are a very money conscious and worldly group. I bet they certainly would not want to do the humble stuff that Jesus did like hang out with the poor, and sick and the deprived.
I'm not a fan of the health, wealth and prosperity gospel. Not all charismatic churches, however, subscribe to that sort of doctrine. Be careful with your generalizations.
Originally posted by googlefudgeIn terms of absolute numbers in annual increase. Primarily a demographic effect with populous Asia and Africa leading the way. Sheer population and incredible birth rate. In contrast, while Christian religion also has large numbers, birth rate is relatively low.
By what metric?
% growth.
Absolute growth.
% of total world population...
Plus whose doing the counting and what methodology are they using?
Are the numbers in any way reliable?
-Removed-After reading this over Im certain you dont understand the Bible. Moses, David and Peter were all loved by God because of their devotion and works which pleased God. Many sinners are repentant but not all will receive forgiveness. God does not want anyone to sin and then ask for forgiveness, then sin and ask for forgiveness and over and over. God wants people to DO and PERFORM AND FOLLOW CHRIST'S COMMANDMENTS.
If you want I will be happy to discuss this further in another thread. Lets stop screwing up BdN's thread.
Originally posted by Rajk999I suggest an edit, to:
After reading this over Im certain you dont understand the Bible. Moses, David and Peter were all loved by God because of their devotion and works which pleased God. Many sinners are repentant but not all will receive forgiveness. God does not want anyone to sin and then ask for forgiveness, then sin and ask for forgiveness and over and over. God wants peop ...[text shortened]... I will be happy to discuss this further in another thread. Lets stop screwing up BdN's thread.
"After reading this over Im certain you dont understand the Bible the way I do."
Originally posted by Bosse de NageAlthough there are limited examples of its use in Scripture (in Him there is no darkness and etc.,), most of Scripture is emphatic in its descriptions of God. Apophasis contains some aspects of agreement with the knowledge imparted by the Bible, namely, that God transcends all of creation, yet also contains error in the idea that God is ineffable.
Does apophasis have any relevance today?
Certainly, our understanding of God is limited and there is no denying the limitations of both our ability to understand or describe the entirety of His characteristics or personality. But He also clearly wants to be known and has made a concerted effort in imparting that which can be known about Him within the constraints of our parameters.
So I suppose I am saying that there is a partial relevance for the theology, albeit with a very fine line.
