From another thread, posted by a Christian:
One day I will hear Jesus say to me, "Well done thou good and faithful servant".
"Done".
According to their beliefs, when Christians meet Jesus in "heaven", what is it that they will be required to have "done" well in their lives to warrant such a greeting [and reward]?
"Servant".
Don't servants have to actually do things?
Again, according to their beliefs, when Christians are welcomed to "heaven" by Jesus, what is it that they will be required to have done as "servants" during their lives?
@FMF
The teaching work...
Matt 24:14..... 14 And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Matt 28: 19,20...... 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
1 Thes 2:9..... 9 Surely you remember, brothers, our labor and toil. We were working night and day, so that we would not put an expensive burden on any one of you, when we preached the good news of God to you.
@galveston75 saidTeaching religious doctrine. OK, understood.
@FMF
The teaching work...
What else are people who see themselves as "servants" of Jesus required to do during their lifetimes?
@fmf saidIt's simple. No big hoops to jump through. No heavy burdens to bear. No striving or sweating. Not rites and rituals. No complicated religious ceremonies.
From another thread, posted by a Christian:
One day I will hear Jesus say to me, "Well done thou good and faithful servant".
"Done".
According to their beliefs, when Christians meet Jesus in "heaven", what is it that they will be required to have "done" well in their lives to warrant such a greeting [and reward]?
"Servant".
Don't servants have to actually do ...[text shortened]... aven" by Jesus, what is it that they will be required to have done as "servants" during their lives?
Just simply obedience and faith in the lot in life one is dealt with.
@secondson saidSo, aside from faith, Christians are required to obey the commandments and do good works in order to enter "heaven" [so to speak]?
Just simply obedience and faith in the lot in life one is dealt with.
@fmf saidThere is no "aside from faith" in the equation.
So, aside from faith, Christians are required to obey the commandments and do good works in order to enter "heaven" [so to speak]?
Entrance into "heaven", or having eternal life, both are mutually inclusive, is not contingent on requirements met.
The concept of "salvation by grace" does not come with the issuance of a license to sin.
Obedience and faith are the appropriate response to the giving of a gift too precious to describe in words.
@secondson saidSo obedience is NOT required, ONLY faith is required?
There is no "aside from faith" in the equation.
Entrance into "heaven", or having eternal life, both are mutually inclusive, is not contingent on requirements met.
The concept of "salvation by grace" does not come with the issuance of a license to sin.
Obedience and faith are the appropriate response to the giving of a gift too precious to describe in words.
@fmf saidGet some sleep. You're apparently delirious.
So obedience is NOT required, ONLY faith is required?
I just told you a few minutes ago that "required" is not in the equation. At least not in a way you'd understand.
But don't worry about it. I didn't understand it either even after I was saved for a long time.
@secondson saidNo. I am not "delirious" or in need of sleep.
Get some sleep. You're apparently delirious.
You have given this advice in public and not privately, so presumably you think saying it furthers the case you are making in this discussion. However, I don't see how it has a bearing on what either of us is saying.
@secondson saidAn hour ago you said, in answer to my question about what is required of a Christian, you said: "Just simply obedience and faith in the lot in life one is dealt with." ...and yet, now an hour later, you are saying that obedience is not required.
I just told you a few minutes ago that "required" is not in the equation.
@fmf saidBurying 30 kg of silver in the desert's a mistake.
From another thread, posted by a Christian:
One day I will hear Jesus say to me, "Well done thou good and faithful servant".
"Done".
According to their beliefs, when Christians meet Jesus in "heaven", what is it that they will be required to have "done" well in their lives to warrant such a greeting [and reward]?
"Servant".
Don't servants have to actually do ...[text shortened]... aven" by Jesus, what is it that they will be required to have done as "servants" during their lives?
That 30kg figure turns out to the the Babylonian Talent. The Common Heavy Talent weighed about 59kg. This is worth £25,000 or $33,000 (USD) at todays prices. Based on minimum wages in the UK being around £15,000 a year and survival wages in the Persian era being 22 shekels per year [1] that gives a hack's guess of the Talent having the equivalent purchasing power of £2.5 million. Burying it in the desert really wasn't a good plan.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekel
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_and_Talmudic_units_of_measurement#Weight_and_coins
[3] Minimum wage in the UK is £8.31 an hour, I multiplied by 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and assumed 48 working weeks. This comes to £15,700 a year.
[4] 1 talent = 60 minas = 3,600 shekels.
@deepthought saidMaybe it is a metaphor for prospecting for oil in the Middle East.
Burying 30 kg of silver in the desert's a mistake.
Trial and error.
One has to speculate to accumulate.
