07 Sep 06
I've read and heard a lot about people saying that if you lived a religious, god-worshiping existence you go to heaven and if you didn't, off to hell with you, but is there really a heaven or a hell? what evidence do religions have to prove that paradise is all sunshine and rainbows or hell being a flaming sulphurous pit? Maybe that's where the "faith" part comes in...
I've done some research on the paranormal and near-death experiences and have come across some interesting cases. Carl Jung had a near-death experience. He suffered a heart attack and felt his spirit leave his body. Then he found himself in front of a temple. He also saw a hindu man sitting in the lotus position and Jung felt he was about to discover the meaning of life itself when the doctor who was operating on him appared in the guise of an ancient Roman healer telling him he had to return to Earth.
Heaven, hell, the afterlife, re-incarnation... Nothing at all? Any guesses as to what a post bucket-kicking existence might be like?
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07 Sep 06
Originally posted by D3vilBoyYou might find this a little interesting:
I've read and heard a lot about people saying that if you lived a religious, god-worshiping existence you go to heaven and if you didn't, off to hell with you, but is there really a heaven or a hell? what evidence do religions have to prove that paradise is all sunshine and rainbows or hell being a flaming sulphurous pit? Maybe that's where the "faith" part ...[text shortened]... n... Nothing at all? Any guesses as to what a post bucket-kicking existence might be like?
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07 Sep 06
Originally posted by D3vilBoyIn order to answer you, you must first decide what your basis of truth is. Is it the Koran? the Bible? the Torah?...all religions present differing views so it is impossible to tell you exactly what happens after you die, because that is too vague a question.
I've read and heard a lot about people saying that if you lived a religious, god-worshiping existence you go to heaven and if you didn't, off to hell with you, but is there really a heaven or a hell? what evidence do religions have to prove that paradise is all sunshine and rainbows or hell being a flaming sulphurous pit? Maybe that's where the "faith" part ...[text shortened]... n... Nothing at all? Any guesses as to what a post bucket-kicking existence might be like?
If you would like me to present my views, I will, because I think I have alot more than a guess, but it will be a round-about way in proving it. It is a long process. First proving the reliability of the Bible, then proving the validity of Jesus and His teaching, then once we have that grounded, I can not only tell you what happens after you die but hopefully prove it as well. However I may start new threads, splitting each up into a different one. Then once the critics and skeptics have their say, with my defense, I will of course let you make the decision for yourself on what you think, after this evidence is presented, will happen after you die.
07 Sep 06
Originally posted by ngeisler88If it were actually provable then this forum wouldn't exist. We'd all have joined your church by now.
First proving the reliability of the Bible, then proving the validity of Jesus and His teaching, then once we have that grounded, I can not only tell you what happens after you die but hopefully prove it as well.
07 Sep 06
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Originally posted by D3vilBoyFrom what I have heard in regards to near death experiences, people tend to have similar stories of floating above their bodies and possibly into other rooms and then they are taken away towards a light of some kind. They tend to have a feeling of love and peace while on this journey. In my opinion, this is the transition from this life to the next and should not be considered what it is like on the other side per sey. Scientists of coarse try to explain this away and say it is all due to chemical reactions of a dying brain. The most compelling stories I have found to be about people who leave their bodies and can repeat conversations that occured while they were supposidly dead and had no other way to know about. One person in particular had been blind his entire life. Then while he was undergoing his near death experience he could see for the first time. When he came back he then was able to explain what it was like to see.
I've read and heard a lot about people saying that if you lived a religious, god-worshiping existence you go to heaven and if you didn't, off to hell with you, but is there really a heaven or a hell? what evidence do religions have to prove that paradise is all sunshine and rainbows or hell being a flaming sulphurous pit? Maybe that's where the "faith" part n... Nothing at all? Any guesses as to what a post bucket-kicking existence might be like?
07 Sep 06
Originally posted by D3vilBoyDecomposition.
I've read and heard a lot about people saying that if you lived a religious, god-worshiping existence you go to heaven and if you didn't, off to hell with you, but is there really a heaven or a hell? what evidence do religions have to prove that paradise is all sunshine and rainbows or hell being a flaming sulphurous pit? Maybe that's where the "faith" part ...[text shortened]... n... Nothing at all? Any guesses as to what a post bucket-kicking existence might be like?
07 Sep 06
Originally posted by ngeisler88Is religion or religious scripture the only option for truth in these matters? Almost all of them propound some sort of comforting life-after-death existence. Seems like eons of subjective human experience and gathered information points to death as being rather...terminal.
you must first decide what your basis of truth is. Is it the Koran? the Bible? the Torah?...all religions present differing views