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    20 Jul '07 19:21
    can someone give me a definition of something that is, without a shadow of a doubt, real?
  2. Standard memberblakbuzzrd
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    20 Jul '07 19:29
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    can someone give me a definition of something that is, without a shadow of a doubt, real?
    That football team in Madrid?
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    20 Jul '07 22:57
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    can someone give me a definition of something that is, without a shadow of a doubt, real?
    Ask Descartes.
  4. Subscriberjosephw
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    21 Jul '07 00:42
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    can someone give me a definition of something that is, without a shadow of a doubt, real?
    Real estate.
  5. The sky
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    21 Jul '07 02:09
    Originally posted by josephw
    Real estate.
    But is real estate really real? I mean, for real now!
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    21 Jul '07 02:15
    http://www.cafepress.com/noimaginaries
  7. Standard memberStregone
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    21 Jul '07 02:221 edit
    You ask: is anything really real. Yes: Checkmate! 😳
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    21 Jul '07 07:59
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    can someone give me a definition of something that is, without a shadow of a doubt, real?
    "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

    Albert Einstein
  9. SubscriberWajoma
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    21 Jul '07 09:511 edit
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    can someone give me a definition of something that is, without a shadow of a doubt, real?
    First you start with existence.

    i.e. existence exists. This is to say nothing of the nature of existance, just that it is. And know this: Existence is all that exists, nothing can exist outside existence therefore nothing can create existence.

    I think the next axiom is: A is A

    This is not to say anything of the nature of A, just that A can't suddenly be a B.

    ...and you just keep going from there.
  10. PenTesting
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    21 Jul '07 13:13
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    can someone give me a definition of something that is, without a shadow of a doubt, real?
    Read "The Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley
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