When Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community like this, how can one tell?
Surely such "flowing" directly affects things like character, personality, interpersonal skills, demeanour, processing of dissent, perspective, sense of proportion, warmth, balance, humour, behaviour in general ~ all of which are visible, detectable, observable traits?
Surely the evidence that Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community is more than them just citing doctrine?
Thoughts?
-Removed-Be that as it may, I still think it would be interesting to hear from people who make such claims.
Romans1009 made a similar claim about the "Holy Spirit" "dwelling" in him and he said his posting was the upshot of that (i.e. the evidence of it) but he is gone.
It would be interesting to hear from others who believe that "Jesus is flowing through [them]", like sonship for example.
@fmf saidIf Jesus is in a believer then that person abides in Christ. This means to abide in His words and teachings, and to follow and obey these. Sonship believes another doctrine.
Be that as it may, I still think it would be interesting to hear from people who make such claims.
Romans1009 made a similar claim about the "Holy Spirit" "dwelling" in him and he said his posting was the upshot of that (i.e. the evidence of it) but he is gone.
It would be interesting to hear from others who believe that "Jesus is flowing through [them]", like sonship for example.
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@fmf saidLuke 6
When Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community like this, how can one tell?
Surely such "flowing" directly affects things like character, personality, interpersonal skills, demeanour, processing of dissent, perspective, sense of proportion, warmth, balance, humour, behaviour in general ~ all of which are visible, detectable, observable traits?
Surely the e ...[text shortened]... flowing through" someone in an online community is more than them just citing doctrine?
Thoughts?
43“For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit. 44“For each tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they pick grapes from a briar bush. 45“The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart. 46“Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? 47“Everyone who comes to Me and hears My words and acts on them, I will show you whom he is like: 48he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. 49“But the one who has heard and has not acted accordingly, is like a man who built a house on the ground without any foundation; and the torrent burst against it and immediately it collapsed, and the ruin of that house was great.”
John 8
34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.
31So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
Surely such "flowing" directly affects things like character, personality, interpersonal skills, demeanour, processing of dissent, perspective, sense of proportion, warmth, balance, humour, behaviour in general ~ all of which are visible, detectable, observable traits?
Surely the evidence that Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community is more than them just citing doctrine?
Thoughts?
No arguments.
But it is Jesus that you wish to eliminate with any flow of Jesus.
Why deem fake interest in what you are dedicated to riding your life of?
@sonship saidWhat's your answer to the OP question?
@FMF
[quote] Surely such "flowing" directly affects things like character, personality, interpersonal skills, demeanour, processing of dissent, perspective, sense of proportion, warmth, balance, humour, behaviour in general ~ all of which are visible, detectable, observable traits?
Surely the evidence that Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community is mo ...[text shortened]... with any flow of Jesus.
Why deem fake interest in what you are dedicated to riding your life of?
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What's your answer to the OP question?
You ended the OP with.
Thoughts?
So I submitted mine.
It is, however, futile for the atheist who intends that there be no God to flow His life towards him that he should deem fake objective curiosity by asking:
When Jesus is "flowing through" someone in an online community like this, how can one tell?
I think the Lord Jesus doesn't force the flowing of Himself brute force style coercively on the man decidedly choosing a career to reject God.
Some fool like me might keep arguing. But Jesus is likely to stop flowing where the welcome sign out front says "Do Not Enter! In fact Do not EXIST to ME!"
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It would be interesting to hear from others who believe that "Jesus is flowing through [them]", like sonship for example.
Me rejoicing in Jesus flowing through me AS HE PROMISED (John 7:38,39) (not me) is not a statement that I have some authority over you.
The flowing of the Spirit may be for my enjoyment and have nothing to do with bludgeoning you with some Niagara Falls torrent, forcing you to change directions in your personal life.