@rajk999 saidI am well aware of the "wind blowing" aspect to a lot of what he says. He likes to characterize that awareness or viewpoint as "apathy" on my part; which is spin belied by my 60,000+ posts industriousness and stamina! However, it's more interesting to me to question his behaviour in instances like this rather than ignore it. He is, after all, the only Christian here who claims to be "becoming like Jesus".
That is weird and completely abnormal Christian behavior. But sonship is in a cult and not a normal Christian. Personally I would treat that like the wind blowing, and just ignore him.
@secondson saidSo you think me starting this thread is a worse kind of discourse than sonship offering to pray to speed up my death?
Given your penchant for mischaracterizing the intent of your debate opponents words, and without providing appropriate content to support your contention, I'd say this thread and its purpose is "normal" for you.
@sonship saidIs offering to pray for the speeding up of my death, to your way of thinking, normal, Christian discourse?
And as I described it above:No I offered to pray to expedite your going to that realm of death to find out if the bible is true or not.
That is what I offered. Go back and read it.
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Is offering to pray for the speeding up of my death, to your way of thinking, normal, Christian discourse?
On the contrary, I think more than 95% of what you offer here is the normal, Christian discourse of a believer.
You're asking if what I wrote is in the less then 5% that you regard as not normal? You seemed practically to be unnecessary to inquire.
Look above what I replied to Suzziane's post or one word ... "No".
And I would agree with Suzziane that it was not too normal for Christian discourse with an unbeliever.
By the way. You wrote:
sonship recently offered several times to pray [along with some of his prayer group friends] to expedite/speed up my death when I refused to speculate about whether my intelligence was the reason for me not believing the same things as he does.
Could you enumerate the "several times"? That would be six times.
And if I recall rightly, on that thread I abruptly dropped the whole matter by saying something like "Nevermind".
In other words the whole tangent was to my estimation a bad idea.
Ah. Here it is.
Nevermind FMF.
@sonship saidDid typing "Nevermind" mean you DID or DIDN'T think you were engaging in normal, Christian discourse?
And if I recall rightly, on that thread I abruptly dropped the whole matter by saying something like "Nevermind".
In other words the whole tangent was to my estimation a bad idea.
Ah. Here it is.Nevermind FMF.
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Did typing "Nevermind" mean you DID or DIDN'T think you were engaging in normal, Christian discourse?
It meant as I just said. The tangent was a bad idea.
That would come down on the abnormal side of a believer conversing with an unbeliever.
Bad idea = abnormal = not normal = certainly not average.
@sonship saidThe statement "I think more than 95% of what you offer here is the normal, Christian discourse of a believer" is not me asking anything. It's a statement. What it means is that, as far as I am concerned, when you say "I don't think FMF thinks there is such a thing as normal discourse of a believer", I think it is a bald-faced lie on your part.On the contrary, I think more than 95% of what you offer here is the normal, Christian discourse of a believer.
You're asking if what I wrote is in the less then 5% that you regard as not normal?
Did typing "Nevermind" mean you DID or DIDN'T think you were engaging in normal, Christian discourse?
You replied to my post about Suzziane. So you already read my agreement with her that it was not normal.
Is it normal discourse for an agnostic / atheist to know how someone feels and yet repeat the question to him anyway?
@sonship saidDo you mean it was un-Christian of you?
It meant as I just said. The tangent was a bad idea.
That would come down on the abnormal side of a believer conversing with an unbeliever.
Bad idea = abnormal = not normal = certainly not average.
If so, why were you trying to make excuses for it on page 1 of this thread?
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@fmf saidThat's interesting. You spoke of 60,000 some posts.
It is normal to press someone if they are wriggling pridefully in the way you are.
A lot of them on this Spirituality Forum seemed to me prideful wriggling of an agnostic athiest.
Watch.
If there is no absolute moral standard then how can you condemn as bad "un-Christian" behavior?
The condemning of bad "un-Christian" behavior would be no more than someone's personal taste.
Wriggle for us.