Ring species. Where a species diverges in two different lines and then the ends of the lines undergoing all this 'microevolution' YEC'ers like to talk about,
Kinds make kinds.
But when they reconverge, now they cannot mutually reproduce, and this is in OUR times not talking about some fossil dead and buried for eons.
Now they are not the same 'Kind' are they? So here we have MACRO evolution right in front of our noses.
Originally posted by sonhouse http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/irwin.html
Ring species. Where a species diverges in two different lines and then the ends of the lines undergoing all this 'microevolution' YEC'ers like to talk about,
Kinds make kinds.
But when they reconverge, now they cannot mutually reproduce, and this is in OUR times not talking about some fossil dea ...[text shortened]... t the same 'Kind' are they? So here we have MACRO evolution right in front of our noses.
DOH.
Two different species of lizards will still produce a lizard. Two different species of birds will still produce a bird. Two different species of cats will still produce a cat. So what?
Originally posted by sonhouse http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/irwin.html
Ring species. Where a species diverges in two different lines and then the ends of the lines undergoing all this 'microevolution' YEC'ers like to talk about,
Kinds make kinds.
But when they reconverge, now they cannot mutually reproduce, and this is in OUR times not talking about some fossil dea ...[text shortened]... t the same 'Kind' are they? So here we have MACRO evolution right in front of our noses.
DOH.
Young Earth Creationist are unable to extrapolate if the logical conclusions thus reached go against their understanding of the bible.
The term 'kind' is so woolly and ill-defined that they will say it means something like 'species' unless they are shown speciation, when it suddenly means 'family' or 'genus'
Originally posted by RJHinds Two different species of lizards will still produce a lizard. Two different species of birds will still produce a bird. Two different species of cats will still produce a cat. So what?
The point is, as you very well already know, is the two lines are now permanently separated into two separate 'kinds' as you want to put it. There are two species now where there were only 1 before.
Originally posted by sonhouse The point is, as you very well already know, is the two lines are now permanently separated into two separate 'kinds' as you want to put it. There are two species now where there were only 1 before.
This is not evolution. This is a case of loss of genetic information, not gain in information.
Originally posted by RJHinds I don't see why you think the loss of gene EXPRESSION has anything to do with disproving YEC.
I didn't say that. I said you keep thinking there is a loss of information. There is no LOSS of information. It is a matter of epigenetics or are you lost in that world too? Did you even google the word?
Originally posted by sonhouse I didn't say that. I said you keep thinking there is a loss of information. There is no LOSS of information. It is a matter of epigenetics or are you lost in that world too? Did you even google the word?
Why don't you just use plain English and stop trying to cover up your lies with strange words that people have to google.