16 May 14
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/irwin.html
Ring species. Where a species diverges in two different lines and then the ends of the lines undergoing all this 'microevolution' YEC'ers like to talk about,
Kinds make kinds.
But when they reconverge, now they cannot mutually reproduce, and this is in OUR times not talking about some fossil dead and buried for eons.
Now they are not the same 'Kind' are they? So here we have MACRO evolution right in front of our noses.
DOH.
16 May 14
Originally posted by sonhouseTwo different species of lizards will still produce a lizard. Two different species of birds will still produce a bird. Two different species of cats will still produce a cat. So what?
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/irwin.html
Ring species. Where a species diverges in two different lines and then the ends of the lines undergoing all this 'microevolution' YEC'ers like to talk about,
Kinds make kinds.
But when they reconverge, now they cannot mutually reproduce, and this is in OUR times not talking about some fossil dea ...[text shortened]... t the same 'Kind' are they? So here we have MACRO evolution right in front of our noses.
DOH.
16 May 14
Originally posted by sonhouseYoung Earth Creationist are unable to extrapolate if the logical conclusions thus reached go against their understanding of the bible.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/irwin.html
Ring species. Where a species diverges in two different lines and then the ends of the lines undergoing all this 'microevolution' YEC'ers like to talk about,
Kinds make kinds.
But when they reconverge, now they cannot mutually reproduce, and this is in OUR times not talking about some fossil dea ...[text shortened]... t the same 'Kind' are they? So here we have MACRO evolution right in front of our noses.
DOH.
The term 'kind' is so woolly and ill-defined that they will say it means something like 'species' unless they are shown speciation, when it suddenly means 'family' or 'genus'
--- Penguin.
16 May 14
Originally posted by RJHindsThe point is, as you very well already know, is the two lines are now permanently separated into two separate 'kinds' as you want to put it. There are two species now where there were only 1 before.
Two different species of lizards will still produce a lizard. Two different species of birds will still produce a bird. Two different species of cats will still produce a cat. So what?
17 May 14
Originally posted by sonhouseThis is not evolution. This is a case of loss of genetic information, not gain in information.
The point is, as you very well already know, is the two lines are now permanently separated into two separate 'kinds' as you want to put it. There are two species now where there were only 1 before.
17 May 14
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Originally posted by RJHindsLet's see you prove that is the result of the LOSS of genetic information.
This is not evolution. This is a case of loss of genetic information, not gain in information.
Did you not read ANYTHING into my statements on the issue in science?
That little thing called EPIGENETICS?
All that is going on here is a small mind, you, not WANTING to know anything that could run a monkey wrench into your fantasy world.
Can't have conflicts that could wreck your so-called belief system can you?
17 May 14
Originally posted by sonhouseNo, I don't need any monkey wrench or ape men either for that matter.
Let's see you prove that is the result of the LOSS of genetic information.
Did you not read ANYTHING into my statements on the issue in science?
That little thing called EPIGENETICS?
All that is going on here is a small mind, you, not WANTING to know anything that could run a monkey wrench into your fantasy world.
Can't have conflicts that could wreck your so-called belief system can you?
18 May 14
Originally posted by RJHindsI didn't say that. I said you keep thinking there is a loss of information. There is no LOSS of information. It is a matter of epigenetics or are you lost in that world too? Did you even google the word?
I don't see why you think the loss of gene EXPRESSION has anything to do with disproving YEC.
19 May 14
Originally posted by sonhouseWhy don't you just use plain English and stop trying to cover up your lies with strange words that people have to google.
I didn't say that. I said you keep thinking there is a loss of information. There is no LOSS of information. It is a matter of epigenetics or are you lost in that world too? Did you even google the word?