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    17 Mar '13 17:02
    "The Bible and the Book of Mormon are both witnesses of Jesus Christ. They teach that He is the Son of God, that He lived an exemplary life, that He atoned for all mankind, that He died upon the cross and rose again as the resurrected Lord. They teach that He is the Savior of the world." ~Russell M. Nelson
  2. Donationrwingett
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    17 Mar '13 17:33
    Originally posted by Lloyd E Adkins
    "The Bible and the Book of Mormon are both witnesses of Jesus Christ. They teach that He is the Son of God, that He lived an exemplary life, that He atoned for all mankind, that He died upon the cross and rose again as the resurrected Lord. They teach that He is the Savior of the world." ~Russell M. Nelson
    No.
  3. Cape Town
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    17 Mar '13 18:19
    Originally posted by Lloyd E Adkins
    "The Bible and the Book of Mormon are both witnesses of Jesus Christ. They teach that He is the Son of God, that He lived an exemplary life, that He atoned for all mankind, that He died upon the cross and rose again as the resurrected Lord. They teach that He is the Savior of the world." ~Russell M. Nelson
    Don't leave out the Quran, it has teachings too!
  4. Standard memberKepler
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    17 Mar '13 19:13
    Let me think about that ...

    ... no, I don't believe the bible.
  5. Dublin Ireland
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    17 Mar '13 19:24
    Originally posted by Kepler
    Let me think about that ...

    ... no, I don't believe the bible.
    The Bible is complicated enough,
    but the book of Mormon?



    Please don't get me started........

    Some Angel allegedly called Moroni appeared to some guy
    and gave him a golden bible?

    Which has since gone missing????

    Sounds like one big scam.
  6. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Mar '13 19:51
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    The Bible is complicated enough,
    but the book of Mormon?



    Please don't get me started........

    Some Angel allegedly called Moroni appeared to some guy
    and gave him a golden bible?

    Which has since gone missing????

    Sounds like one big scam.
    Exactly! 😏

    HalleluYash !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
  7. Cape Town
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    17 Mar '13 20:11
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    Some Angel allegedly called Moroni appeared to some guy
    and gave him a golden bible?

    Which has since gone missing????

    Sounds like one big scam.
    So...
    Not much different from Moses and the 10 commandments.
  8. Dublin Ireland
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    17 Mar '13 20:22
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    So...
    Not much different from Moses and the 10 commandments.
    I agree.

    But then I am a cynic at heart.

    I think all organized religions are a scam.

    Religion today is a business. I was raised in the Roman Catholic faith.
    That institution is nearly 2000 years old now. It has less to do
    with faith and more to do with power and money.

    It is also a failed entity. Look at all the abuse the Catholic Clergy have
    been responsible for. Both sexual and financial. More worried about
    themselves than their flock.
  9. Cape Town
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    17 Mar '13 21:09
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    It is also a failed entity. Look at all the abuse the Catholic Clergy have
    been responsible for. Both sexual and financial. More worried about
    themselves than their flock.
    I think you cannot judge success or failure until you define what metrics you are judging against. As for abuse, I think the abuse by priest is somewhat unjustly criticized as such things go on in other institutions too, the difference is that we tend to expect more of priests, unfairly I think.
    I for one was taught in a catholic school and think that there is a lot of good that some parts of the Catholic Church have done. Certainly in Zambia, I believe that it is by far the largest charitable institution.
  10. Standard memberhakima
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    17 Mar '13 21:38
    I have read both books several times...as well as other sacred texts...as well as classics and best sellers. I don't think that I have to believe every word that is written in them in order to benefit from them. When one is sincerely seeking inspiration, enlightenment can be found even among the threads of an internet chess sight. 😛
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    17 Mar '13 21:49
    Originally posted by hakima
    I have read both books several times...as well as other sacred texts...as well as classics and best sellers. I don't think that I have to believe every word that is written in them in order to benefit from them. When one is sincerely seeking inspiration, enlightenment can be found even among the threads of an internet chess sight. 😛
    Don't give up hope Hakima.
    Like you said you could find inspiration anywhere.
    Even on a chess site.

    I still think my code is the best.

    Be a good person to all. Do that and hopefully
    you get back what you give.

    Let's all help each other.

    Like you said you don't need religion to do that.

    Just be a good human being.
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    17 Mar '13 23:181 edit
    Originally posted by Lloyd E Adkins
    "The Bible and the Book of Mormon are both witnesses of Jesus Christ. They teach that He is the Son of God, that He lived an exemplary life, that He atoned for all mankind, that He died upon the cross and rose again as the resurrected Lord. They teach that He is the Savior of the world." ~Russell M. Nelson
    I guess this makes you our first Mormon addition to RHP. Welcome.

    Az fur myself, all them organized religions iz the root of all evil if youz ask me. All them athiest folk and nonchurch goers though iz just swell like. 😛
  13. Standard memberRJHinds
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    18 Mar '13 00:502 edits
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I think you cannot judge success or failure until you define what metrics you are judging against. As for abuse, I think the abuse by priest is somewhat unjustly criticized as such things go on in other institutions too, the difference is that we tend to expect more of priests, unfairly I think.
    I for one was taught in a catholic school and think that th ...[text shortened]... have done. Certainly in Zambia, I believe that it is by far the largest charitable institution.
    The one thing the Roman Catholic Church fails to understand is that man and woman were not made by God to be celibate. That includes priests and nuns.
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    18 Mar '13 05:29
    Lloyd, if you have time, here are a couple of links to check out. Both have to do with ex-Mormon Steve Benson.

    http://www.lds-mormon.com/benson2.shtml

    http://www.i4m.com/think/comments/Mormon_apologist.htm

    Let us know what you think.
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    18 Mar '13 06:23
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The one thing the Roman Catholic Church fails to understand is that man and woman were not made by God to be celibate. That includes priests and nuns.
    Yes, if Jesus had got married it would have saved the world a whole lot of problems.
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